Brewster-Krasniqi - what's the verdict?

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  • !! Anorak
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    Brewster-Krasniqi - what's the verdict?

    I know this fight is now nearly two months old, but thanks to it being in Germany I think it's only about now that a fair proportion of us are starting to get to see it.

    I've added it to my heavyweight report card thread (sticky) and have to say it was one of the three best heavyweight bouts I've seen in 2005 (along with Brewster's other bout and Toney's exhibition against Dominick Guinn).

    Krasniqi definitely proved he belongs in the upper echelons of the current heavyweight rankings for me... I can easily envisage him being able to take out Rahman and Ruiz, and it's more than possible he could rematch Brewster and take a decision.
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    Originally posted by Anorak
    I know this fight is now nearly two months old, but thanks to it being in Germany I think it's only about now that a fair proportion of us are starting to get to see it.

    I've added it to my heavyweight report card thread (sticky) and have to say it was one of the three best heavyweight bouts I've seen in 2005 (along with Brewster's other bout and Toney's exhibition against Dominick Guinn).

    Krasniqi definitely proved he belongs in the upper echelons of the current heavyweight rankings for me... I can easily envisage him being able to take out Rahman and Ruiz, and it's more than possible he could rematch Brewster and take a decision.

    krasniqi is a real contender, he beats rahman, probably ruiz. after tasting brew's power tho, i don't think he'd beat brew in the rematch - he'll be scared, that kind of knockout ****s u up psychologically, i don't think he'd want to face brew again and have another possiblity of getting knocked out.

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    • !! Anorak
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      Originally posted by beeatch!
      krasniqi is a real contender, he beats rahman, probably ruiz. after tasting brew's power tho, i don't think he'd beat brew in the rematch - he'll be scared, that kind of knockout ****s u up psychologically, i don't think he'd want to face brew again and have another possiblity of getting knocked out.
      You could be right there. What impressed me is that he was not only able to take Brewster's shots for a lot of the bout (I know there was movement/some holding involvement, but he still took several shots that would make Golota wet himself) but he was able to register with Brewster as well. Very impressed with that guy amongst the current heavies.

      I think though - see if you agree with this - the "Krasniqi vs. Rahman" match-up is a moot point as Toney will take the belt Rahman never earnt off him in February anyway.

      I always think Byrd is such a wild card that you can never predict who he'd beat, but yeah, we both agree that Krasniqi is capable of taking at least ONE of the belts, right?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Anorak
        You could be right there. What impressed me is that he was not only able to take Brewster's shots for a lot of the bout (I know there was movement/some holding involvement, but he still took several shots that would make Golota wet himself) but he was able to register with Brewster as well. Very impressed with that guy amongst the current heavies.

        I think though - see if you agree with this - the "Krasniqi vs. Rahman" match-up is a moot point as Toney will take the belt Rahman never earnt off him in February anyway.

        I always think Byrd is such a wild card that you can never predict who he'd beat, but yeah, we both agree that Krasniqi is capable of taking at least ONE of the belts, right?


        definitely, i could see him holding a strap.

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          #5
          Originally posted by beeatch!
          krasniqi is a real contender, he beats rahman, probably ruiz. after tasting brew's power tho, i don't think he'd beat brew in the rematch - he'll be scared, that kind of knockout ****s u up psychologically, i don't think he'd want to face brew again and have another possiblity of getting knocked out.
          Agreed...


          Just ask Wlad

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          • SuckaPunch
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            I wanted to kill the referee for this fight. When Krasniqi was knocked down in the 8th round, the ref counted up to 9 (Krasniqi was still on his knees) and then the ref just watched him get up for the next 10 more seconds, LMAO! So Krasniqi was saved by the bell in Round 8 only to be KO'd in the next round, hehe.

            Everytime Krasniqi would land even a soft jab, the crowd would erupt as if he KO'd Brewster. The telecast was so ****ing bias in between rounds, they would only show the punches Krasniqi would land on Brewster(even though Brewster dominated the round).

            No American should ever be allowed to fight in Germany, ever!
            Last edited by SuckaPunch; 11-22-2005, 09:42 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by SuckaPunch
              I wanted to kill the referee for this fight. When Krasniqi was knocked down in the 8th round, the ref counted up to 9 (Krasniqi was still on his knees) and then the ref just watched him get up for the next 10 more seconds, LMAO! So Krasniqi was saved by the bell in Round 8 only to be KO'd in the next round, hehe.

              Everytime Krasniqi would land even a soft jab, the crowd would erupt as if he KO'd Brewster. The telecast was so ****ing bias in between rounds, they would only show the punches Krasniqi would land on Brewster(even though Brewster dominated the round).

              No American should ever be allowed to fight in Germany, ever!
              agreed. Germany is a JOKE. That's why nobody considers DM a great or successful champion. ****, just because it happened in Germany, you gotta question whether Byrd wasn't BSing when he said Wlad had something on his gloves to make Byrd's eyes swell up. Germany is CORRUPT. Thank God Sanders went there and annihilated Wlad.

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              • phallus
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                Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                agreed. Germany is a JOKE. That's why nobody considers DM a great or successful champion. ****, just because it happened in Germany, you gotta question whether Byrd wasn't BSing when he said Wlad had something on his gloves to make Byrd's eyes swell up. Germany is CORRUPT. Thank God Sanders went there and annihilated Wlad.

                a lot of american fighters say they get something burning in their eyes when they fight in germany, ze germans use a different cut chemical than in the us, at least they used to... how it gets on the gloves and then into the other fighter's eyes is another matter

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                • Bozo_no no
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                  #9
                  Here was my fight report from the day after the fight:

                  In what should be a discussion of one of the worst refereeing blunders in the last few generations of Heavyweight “Title” fights, (Luan Krasniqi was counted out to a full 12 count at the end of round 8), the focus on this fight must be none other than Lamon Brewster.

                  My first exposure to Lamon was on KO Nation when he fought the then undefeated “Black Rino” Clifford Etienne. An explosive 1st round saw an all out bomb fest with Brewster getting knocked down, overwhelmed from shots by the Rino. The fight continued to be a slug match getting sloppier and sloppier each round, resulting in a decisive but lackluster points win for Etienne. I think seeing Fres Oquendo cut through Etienne like he was nothing overshadowed the fact Brewster lost later that same year (on points) to Charrles Shufford. It also made me turn attention away from Lamon as his credibility had taken a serious hit.

                  After that loss to Shufford in 2000, Brewster quietly won 6 fights (inside of 7 rounds) in a row by knock out, culminating in a 5th round TKO of Wlad Klitschko. After that noteworthy win, it seemed that drugs in Wlad’s water bottle or an excess of vasiline on his legs got more credit for the win than Lamon Brewster. To add more doubt, in his first defense of the WBO Heavyweight title, flashbacks of the Brewster of old could be seen as he was outworked in a fight with Kali Meehan that could have been scored either way.

                  It was only when a determined and very serious looking Lamon Brewster destroyed an ever neurotic Andrew Golota in a fraction of the 1st round that popular opinion began to feel the rumblings from around Lamon Brewster. It was widely know that Lamon walked through some very serious fire from a fluid and powerful punching Wlad Klitschko with his heart on his sleeve before coming back to pummel the giant Klitschko around the ring in the 5th round. Suddenly, it appeared for a moment as though there was a young vicious punching Heavyweight with huge chin developing at a very dreary point in the Heavyweight division’s history. If Brewster could walk through that onslaught from Klitschko and could demolish an Andrew Golota that had arguably just beaten two current title holders, could he be the answer to a very lackluster division?

                  Last night Lamon Brewster met a very durable and technically sound fighter in Luan Krasniqi. Brewster found himself at odds for the majority of the first 7 rounds as Krasniqi displayed a solid chin, stiff jab, and an ability to keep Brewster off balance. Brewster showed good chin in taking some powerful shots (blows I had seen chop down Mount Whittaker) from Krasniqi, and despite being frustrated and out-boxed he remained determined throwing some excellent jabs to the body, followed by a blistering attack of left hooks to the ribs. When Krasniqi seemed as though he may have begun coasting towards a points victory when in the 8th round, Brewster began to land some very heavy shots. Krasniqi fought back gallantly landing some hurt on Brewster, but the overwhelming difference in punching power became apparent when Brewster landed a home run left hook that crumbled Krasniqi to the canvass. It was one of the most violent Heavyweight punches thrown since Lennox Lewis’ KO of Hassim Rahman.



                  The referee, concerning himself with Brewster for a moment, picked up the count over Krasniqi, counted to 9, and stood there confused and almost anxious to see Krasniqi stand up. Replaying the sequence saw Krasniqi rise at the count of 12, where the referee then allowed him a moment as he took a close look in his eyes.

                  The fight continued despite the outrage from Brewster’s corner between rounds. Brewster punched Krasniqi around the ring in the 9th until the fight was stopped toward the very end of the round after Krasniqi was dropped hard again.



                  Brewster made a statement on Wednesday and surprised me again for the 3rd time in 4 fights. In the end, it was a methodical performance where his thunderous power punching overwhelmed as the key element in another very solid win. The question now is not a huge debate about where each of the 4 major title holders (note the absence of the word ‘champion’) ranks among each other, but how excited are you as a boxing fan and how much demand is there to see TITLE UNIFICATION fights?

                  The Heavyweight division has just become a little more exciting as Lamon Brewster has emerged as what can now safely be labeled a legitimate threat to anyone he fights. Surely the interest in the division peaks with a match up between Lamon Brewster and the Vitali Klitschko – Hasim Rahman winner. Chris Byrd and James Toney will look to solidify themselves in the top 5 with wins on the weekend, and Wlad Klitschko and Sam Peter also have to be considered in the picture.

                  Cong**** to Lamon Brewster for impressing, I thought Krasniqi would out work him, but he impressed me again. I am very anxious to see some top match ups at Heavyweight.

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                  • !! Anorak
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SuckaPunch
                    I wanted to kill the referee for this fight. When Krasniqi was knocked down in the 8th round, the ref counted up to 9 (Krasniqi was still on his knees) and then the ref just watched him get up for the next 10 more seconds, LMAO! So Krasniqi was saved by the bell in Round 8 only to be KO'd in the next round, hehe.

                    Everytime Krasniqi would land even a soft jab, the crowd would erupt as if he KO'd Brewster. The telecast was so ****ing bias in between rounds, they would only show the punches Krasniqi would land on Brewster(even though Brewster dominated the round).

                    No American should ever be allowed to fight in Germany, ever!
                    I agree, I had Brewster up by a point at the time of the stoppage (just judging the first eight rounds)... he was behind on all three scorecards.

                    That said, this shouldn't take away from Krasniqi, who's as much a victim of dodgy reffing as anyone, as it takes away from his achievements. The ref did a weird "he's coherent at the ten count, so I'll let him get up now I've finished counting" procedure, but Krasniqi was still fighting his heart out for over two-and-a-half minutes of the next round, and still taking shots.

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