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  • Russian Crushin
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    #1

    Mosley Vs. Margarito Fallout

    Anybody ever think about what kind of affect this fight had on the 147/154 division as well as boxing as a whole?

    That night Mosley won but since then these too guys have been winning, just not their fights

    Since then, combined, both fighters are 1-4-1, the only win coming against some guy named Garcia.

    Since then, marg has been dominated twice, selling 1.15 m PPVs and then 500K PPVs yet has only won a round. He is also inline to face JCC jr and has system systematically revived Cotto's career which has gotten him a shot against Mayweather

    Mosley since then has been dominated by PAC and floyd yet sold 2.7 mil PPVs combined, looking god awful just running around and is now getting a shot at a 154 title

    Isn't it crazy how that 1 fight influenced boxing?
    Last edited by Russian Crushin; 02-12-2012, 05:00 PM.
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    They still a name, nothing more nothing less.

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    • Larry the boss
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      #3
      that fight has caused them getting unworthy fights where they havent even been competitive

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      • Danny Gunz
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        You wanna talk about a fight influencing boxing, go back a couple years to Marg - Cotto.

        If Cotto wins that fight we have Oscar vs. Cotto happening in 08', Manny Pacquiao stays at the lower divisions for a couple more years, and Cotto if he wins becomes the superstar.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Danny Gunz
          You wanna talk about a fight influencing boxing, go back a couple years to Marg - Cotto.

          If Cotto wins that fight we have Oscar vs. Cotto happening in 08', Manny Pacquiao stays at the lower divisions for a couple more years, and Cotto if he wins becomes the superstar.
          And ultimately PAC ***g*ts wouldn't exist. Boxingscene went to shyt when these noobs came around.

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          • P4P_No1
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            #6
            Originally posted by Danny Gunz
            You wanna talk about a fight influencing boxing, go back a couple years to Marg - Cotto.

            If Cotto wins that fight we have Oscar vs. Cotto happening in 08', Manny Pacquiao stays at the lower divisions for a couple more years, and Cotto if he wins becomes the superstar.
            didn't realise that. That would have been nuts if that had happened.

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            • Chadmazing
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              This fight is actually one of the more 'important' fights in boxing history. The "what if?" scenarios that come from it are insane. The most notable one of them all is the fact that De La Hoya by all rights should have fought Antonio Margarito but pussied out and thought he would cherry pick Manny Pacquiao; setting up Pacquiao to become a gigantic mainstream star and in essence setting Margarito up to get caught cheating by ****m Richardson since he only fought Mosley as a back up plan to not getting Oscar.

              What if Oscar fought Margarito instead of Pacquiao? What all happens in boxing instead?

              - Manny Pacquiao most likely fights Juan Diaz and at the time even going to 135 would be seen as taking a huge risk. He would have destroyed The Baby Bull, setting up the same fight with Hatton at 140 next. There is no reason to think the same fight doesn't occur there.

              - Oscar would have done a number on Margarito and stopped him; but probably not at that point in time. Margarito, specifically a loaded one, probably walks through Oscar and stops him within eight rounds. He would look like an unbeatable monster to some. If they could get him in the ring with Margarito then most likely Margarito goes after Berto and would have beaten him handily.

              - Shane Mosley had looked pretty bad against Mayorga. Paul Williams probably would have won the race of fighters trying to make a name wanting to get to the Mosley that fought Mayorga. Not sure what happens in this fight. Mosley has power but Williams had an epic chin. All things considered I would probably take Mosley to take a beating for most of the night but pull out a really late stoppage with a barrage of shorts hooks on the inside when Williams looks to close the show. The other two options at the time were Sergio Martinez (prediction: Martinez shocks the boxing world and stops Mosley. He would be a much bigger star than he is now.) and Vernon Forrest (prediction: Forrest outboxes Mosley early... not sure how it ends. At this time Forrest was more aware of trying to score stoppages and might run into something. Doesn't matter really; I'd only think the first two fights probable.)

              - You would have Floyd Mayweather still in the mix because everybody knew he wasn't really retired, a 140 pound dynamo in Manny Pacquiao that people still would think would get destroyed at 147 while Roach tells the world Pacquiao would beat anybody at 147, and then the 147 pound champion Antonio Margarito would look like a killer, and at 154 but willing to fight at 147 is a revived Shane Mosley who looks vulnerable but still has that punching power as evidenced by two late stoppage victories.

              Interesting little boxing world right there.

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              • Larry the boss
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                #8
                Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                You wanna talk about a fight influencing boxing, go back a couple years to Marg - Cotto.

                If Cotto wins that fight we have Oscar vs. Cotto happening in 08', Manny Pacquiao stays at the lower divisions for a couple more years, and Cotto if he wins becomes the superstar.
                yep..so true

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chadmazing
                  This fight is actually one of the more 'important' fights in boxing history. The "what if?" scenarios that come from it are insane. The most notable one of them all is the fact that De La Hoya by all rights should have fought Antonio Margarito but pussied out and thought he would cherry pick Manny Pacquiao; setting up Pacquiao to become a gigantic mainstream star and in essence setting Margarito up to get caught cheating by ****m Richardson since he only fought Mosley as a back up plan to not getting Oscar.

                  What if Oscar fought Margarito instead of Pacquiao? What all happens in boxing instead?

                  - Manny Pacquiao most likely fights Juan Diaz and at the time even going to 135 would be seen as taking a huge risk. He would have destroyed The Baby Bull, setting up the same fight with Hatton at 140 next. There is no reason to think the same fight doesn't occur there.

                  - Oscar would have done a number on Margarito and stopped him; but probably not at that point in time. Margarito, specifically a loaded one, probably walks through Oscar and stops him within eight rounds. He would look like an unbeatable monster to some. If they could get him in the ring with Margarito then most likely Margarito goes after Berto and would have beaten him handily.

                  - Shane Mosley had looked pretty bad against Mayorga. Paul Williams probably would have won the race of fighters trying to make a name wanting to get to the Mosley that fought Mayorga. Not sure what happens in this fight. Mosley has power but Williams had an epic chin. All things considered I would probably take Mosley to take a beating for most of the night but pull out a really late stoppage with a barrage of shorts hooks on the inside when Williams looks to close the show. The other two options at the time were Sergio Martinez (prediction: Martinez shocks the boxing world and stops Mosley. He would be a much bigger star than he is now.) and Vernon Forrest (prediction: Forrest outboxes Mosley early... not sure how it ends. At this time Forrest was more aware of trying to score stoppages and might run into something. Doesn't matter really; I'd only think the first two fights probable.)

                  - You would have Floyd Mayweather still in the mix because everybody knew he wasn't really retired, a 140 pound dynamo in Manny Pacquiao that people still would think would get destroyed at 147 while Roach tells the world Pacquiao would beat anybody at 147, and then the 147 pound champion Antonio Margarito would look like a killer, and at 154 but willing to fight at 147 is a revived Shane Mosley who looks vulnerable but still has that punching power as evidenced by two late stoppage victories.

                  Interesting little boxing world right there.
                  green k for the descriptive visualization

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                  • ИATAS
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                    You wanna talk about a fight influencing boxing, go back a couple years to Marg - Cotto.

                    If Cotto wins that fight we have Oscar vs. Cotto happening in 08', Manny Pacquiao stays at the lower divisions for a couple more years, and Cotto if he wins becomes the superstar.
                    Oscar wasn't going to fight cotto he was already talking bout 'my wife is Puerto rican so I can't disrespect her '

                    now if Oscar wasn't trying to cherry pick a lw and fought the winner pac would have never become the huge star he is today so that's something to think about.

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