Is Muhammad Ali ta Greatest Boxer Foeva?

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  • Tha Greatest
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    #21
    Originally posted by Manny_P
    so if Ali aint ta greatest and is ovarated, WHAT MADE HIM GREAT? You mean ta "trash talking" and "selling himself to public" is ta only thing tis guy was good fo? I KNOW HE HAD GREAT COMP ON HIS RESUME. I woulnt call Ali ovarated.
    Yes, the trash talking, and him calling himself the greatest, and him being ****** and going to Africa...

    He was a big trashtalker n ****..

    He was a great fighter, but overrated.

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    • TuPrincipe
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      #22
      Johnny Tapia has overcome tragedy after tragedy and He still kept coming back.

      He deserves all of the recognition that He gets because He was a great person, and a great fighter.

      I heard one time when He was younger a bus he was riding in went off a cliff, killing a number of passengers but leaving Tapia with only a concussion.

      If this isn't enough to make you believe in guardian angels and such, then I don't know what is.

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      • butterfly1964
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        #23
        Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
        Yes, the trash talking, and him calling himself the greatest, and him being ****** and going to Africa...

        He was a big trashtalker n ****..

        He was a great fighter, but overrated.
        ali is the greatest for five reasons.

        1) in his prime he was unhittable, to any body who ever fought.

        2) he continued to win after the gov't took alot of his speed away from him.

        3) he fought and beat better fighters than anybody who ever fought.

        4) he was on the winning side of two of the biggest upsets in boxing history, if not sports history in liston-clay I in 1964, and ali-foreman in 1974.

        5) he was his own promoter and was able to make more money year for year for himself and his opponents than any other boxer who ever lived, and has done more for sports than anyone period. he is the sole reason why boxers are paid so much today.

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        • TuPrincipe
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          #24
          Liston fights were a farce.

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          • Bozo_no no
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            #25
            Originally posted by TuPrincipe
            Liston fights were a farce.
            That was no fault of Ali's.

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            • TuPrincipe
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              #26
              Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
              That was no fault of Ali's.
              Yes but you can't hold his wins against Liston to be truly valid. The Mafia was out to get Liston, so who knows what the result could of been.

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              • Super_Lightweight
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                #27
                hmm

                Ali lost or deserved to lose to Doug Jones, Ken Norton, Joe Frazier, and would lose 9 outta 10 to George Foreman. His performances in the ring do not warrant him being the greatest fighter ever. That should go to Robinson.

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                • Bozo_no no
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TuPrincipe
                  Yes but you can't hold his wins against Liston to be truly valid. The Mafia was out to get Liston, so who knows what the result could of been.

                  You don't know that.

                  The 1st fight was a very credible victory, because Liston choose to quit after his corner's cheating didn't work, and he knew he was in for an embarassment.

                  In the 2nd fight, who knows why he stayed down when he did.

                  If Ali wasn't the fighter he was, he would have been stopped in the 1st fight.

                  It was a big win for him (at that age) and for his career.

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                  • Tha Greatest
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                    #29
                    Ali was great, but Joe Louis would expose him of his unorthodox techniques and KO him..

                    Sort of like Hamed-Barrera, except with a KO...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
                      Ali was great, but Joe Louis would expose him of his unorthodox techniques and KO him..

                      Sort of like Hamed-Barrera, except with a KO...

                      This is the worst post I've read in weeks.

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