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  • #31
    Originally posted by Phil Ivey View Post
    Big gamble? Yeah 1 win against a shot Casamayor then a shot against Pacquiao is hardly a gamble. A big gamble of been unifying the 140 division followed by a top 5 147er then proceed to Pac.
    Actually he did take a gamble. There wasn't a guarantee that he wouldn't have fought Pac.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sweet Pea 50 View Post
      And for all you feigning outrage over this, Bradley is only 28. Still plenty of time left to see him beat Khan's simp ass all over the ring, because Khan is just going to steam roll over Peterson, after Pac vs Bradley.

      That's what 90% of NSB's problem is.

      Grown ass men worrying about what professional fucking fighters make, risking their health, and even lives, in the ring.

      Khan vs Bradley would have been the more relevant and bigger fight for the sport the Winner would have been the WBO WBC WBA IBF the ring and the lineal champ of JrWW why is that so hard to get? Bradley hurt the division by being a greedy ***** why would anybody still support this ***** is beyond me

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DamonJJ View Post
        People are not quite getting what I am trying to say.

        That time he had to fight Khan for $1.5 mil he fought nobody. That time is gone which means he can't make it up. So even if he fights Khan next, and it will not be for $1.5 mil this time, he can't make it up because that was a section of time he could have had a fight and instead didn't.

        So yes, he is making very good money his next fight. Way more than $1.5 most likely.

        BUT, that doesn't take away from the fact he left that $1.5 mil on the table.
        Originally posted by immortal tech View Post
        he would have made minimum of $2 million fighting Khan I really want to see the amount he is making vs Pac I doubt its significantly more
        Originally posted by DamonJJ View Post
        Yes he could have made more because Khan was splitting the UK profits which is quite unbelievable.

        I don't mind people liking Bradley or saying he is making good money. He is.

        Let's just be honest and admit it's not good business to leave $1.5-2 million on the table when you can have that money AND a Pac fight.
        Originally posted by Phil Ivey View Post
        If Khan sucks then easy money for Brad and invaluable addition to his legacy... and I said a shot against Pac not a shot Pac.
        Do you guys know how much money Bradley made for Casamayor?

        Do you guys understand his issue with Shaw?

        Which one is easier money? Casamayor or Khan?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by immortal tech View Post
          Khan vs Bradley would have been the more relevant and bigger fight for the sport the Winner would have been the WBO WBC WBA IBF the ring and the lineal champ of JrWW why is that so hard to get? Bradley hurt the division by being a greedy ***** why would anybody still support this ***** is beyond me
          Wow at Bradley being a *****.

          What about when he wanted to fight Khan in 2010? What about when he wanted to fight Maidana in 2010?

          People who might still support that "*****" is probably because they understand the business part of the sport. Something that you obviously don't.

          Bradley made a smart business decision that paid off. Did it not? And, if he beats Pac? What happens to him?

          And, lets ignore his issues with Gary Shaw.

          Floyd had an issue with Arum bought out his contract to get closer to the golden prize which was Oscar. Bradley had an issue with Shaw, didn't buyout his contract. But, waited until it expired to get to closer to the golden prize which is Pacquiao.

          You want to whine and ***** about it fine.

          Fans don't understand that fighters have a short window period to make money. That window can close very quick. You do what's best for you and your family. This isn't like other sports or jobs where you get a pension plan after you retire.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by PBFP4P View Post
            Actually he did take a gamble. There wasn't a guarantee that he wouldn't have fought Pac.
            actually there was parameters for a Pacquiao fight on his contract according to Debouff, he pretty much got the fight for signing on the dotted line

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            • #36
              Originally posted by immortal tech View Post
              actually there was parameters for a Pacquiao fight on his contract according to Debouff, he pretty much got the fight for signing on the dotted line
              Team Pacquiao first option was Cotto. There was no guarantee that Bradley would have gotten Pacquiao. If Pacquiao would have gotten Cotto and beat him. Then the next likely option would have been JMM in the fall. Or Bradley would have been facing JMM first if Cotto-Pacquiao would have gotten done.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Phil Ivey View Post
                If Khan sucks then easy money for Brad and invaluable addition to his legacy... and I said a shot against Pac not a shot Pac.
                Sure, why not? But Bradley is young, in his prime, and there's always time for Khan later.

                If I'm Bradley, I'd rather fight Pacquiao first, get name recognition and try my best to take the throne. If successful, Bradley gets the bigger pot against Khan if and when they meet. But then again, Bradley gets an even bigger payday in a rematch against Pacquiao should he win anyway. He believes he can do it. Khan is small fry compared to Pacquiao. Khan sucks.

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                • #38
                  Bradley is making the same mistake pac did in underestimating JMM, Bradley is very sloppy, JMM beat pac because hes JMM his ring intelligence,style power,timing,experience, against pac and fortitude allowed him to do that I dont buy bradley has the goods to beat pac he has enough to put alot of ring wear on pac but I dont buy hes at that level NOBODY has ever dominated JMM except for Floys mayweather nobody , it can be said JMM hasnt even lost a fight ,because JMM has never been CONVINCINLY BEAT and sometimes LEGITIMATLEY BEAT EITHER,except for mayweather ,bradley better do his homework, and not give pac an inch to breath otherwise hes getting ko'dPacs last 2 performances had more to due with his opposition pac is used to fighting washed-up has-been bums........we need a shakeup If bradley wins its good for boxing

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DamonJJ View Post
                    Yes he could have made more because Khan was splitting the UK profits which is quite unbelievable.

                    I don't mind people liking Bradley or saying he is making good money. He is.

                    Let's just be honest and admit it's not good business to leave $1.5-2 million on the table when you can have that money AND a Pac fight.
                    But only if Bradley won the Khan fight, which losing it was a real possibility no matter how confidently Tim or anyone else might have felt about his chances of winning. And losing your undefeated record before you get a new promoter would be a HORRIBLE business decision. You are talking as if it was a sure thing Bradley would have beaten Khan or could have signed with Top Rank if he lost. Neither of those were sure things and so Bradley was smart to get his promotional situation in order before taking what would have been the riskiest fight of his career.
                    Last edited by The Ninth Layer; 02-10-2012, 02:28 AM.

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                    • #40
                      I really have trouble with people calling Bradley a *****. Look at his WW resume and run is been the best in the last few years.

                      How does Cotto deserve a host at Mayweather? Who has Cotto beat since his fight with Pacquiao? Lets be honest, who? What other title holders at 154 did Cotto fight? Did he fight Bundrage? No. Did he fight Alvarez? No. Did he fight Dzinziruk? No. Did he fight other contenders in the division like a Lara, Angulo, Kirkland, Trout, or even a Vanes? No. Even fringe contenders like a Rodriguez or Wolak? No. He fought 2 shot to pieces on the level of Casamayor maybe even worse with Margarito just having one eye. And, that was enough to be not only an option for Mayweather but for Pacquiao also.

                      Cotto never unified. And, probably really isn't truly #1 or the best in the division. But, again this is a business. You make your money when and anyway you can.

                      Why doesn't Martinez fight Pirog. But, keeps on calling out Mayweather, Manny, Cotto, and Chavez Jr. Because, he understand that his window is closing and is trying to make his money. I fully expect Martinez to fight from here on out the Barker and Macklins of the World until one of the top money players steps up.

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