If this guy makes a good transition from K-1 to boxing...

[King Ghidorah]

Badr Hari was all I'mtime great k1 and fought everybody. Semmy, Overeem, Saki,Bonjasky, etc... He has a 0-1 in MMA, he has alot of talent for Boxing and I think he has a chance to be a beast.

[Someone88]

Vitali never fought under K-1 rules to my knowledge. Hari would have brutalised him as would quite a few other fighters, sorry to say. Different sports different outcomes.

A lot of Fighters who don't even have close to Vitali's Boxing skills have done very well in K-1. Fighters like Sapp, Choi, Mo, Rampage, Sefo and Hunt did good there but in Boxing they wouldn't have even been top 70 with their skills.

Vitali would smash Hari he was a Kickboxing Champion now he is a Boxing Champion, I'm not arguing with you or anything you're a good poster just saying that the talent gap is a lot between Kickboxing and Boxing along with that Vitali at heavyweight is a top two Boxer

Agreed. Actually, most of the top K-1 MAXers had very respectable punching skills. Souwer was a technically crisp puncher with excellent combinations and timing. Zambo had a wicked leaping left hook and a vicious overhand right. Not much of a pure boxer, but incredible explosivity for such a small guy.

Would have loved to have seen Masato in boxing but the dude was made for K-1. Legendary fighter.

K-1 Max has more talent I agree, Zambidis hit really hard but yep Masato had great kicks but also the best Boxing there he was an excellent fighter

[Forza]

The little K1 max guys are amazing, extremely technical and athletic. The HW K1 fighters are great but eh sometimes you can see some embarrassing striking technique.

Guys like bob sapp stopped K1 legend Ernesto Hoost TWICE, that really surprised me

[Alec900]

it will be interesting to see how he does.he has the size,he's athletic and has heavy hands.his chin and his mental are question marks.

I hope he does well

[Alec900]

The little K1 max guys are amazing, extremely technical and athletic. The HW K1 fighters are great but eh sometimes you can see some embarrassing striking technique.

Guys like bob sapp stopped K1 legend Ernesto Hoost TWICE, that really surprised me

wasn't hoost like hundred years old when he fought sapp lol

Daniel Ghita will rule the heavyweights now when Haris' gone

[Banderivets]

This guy doesn't even crack the TOP 15.

Sorry I follow Hari and K1 but it aint happening.

If you watched him you'll see that he just doesnt have it to be a top level boxer. He is a good fighter, but I dont ever see him being a good boxer.

[nomadman]

Aren't the Klitschko's the best so far.

Vit's the best kickboxer to make it in the HWs, followed by Povetkin (Wlad never kickboxed I think) but Skelton's the best K-1 fighter to do it. Like I said though, he was nowhere near the best or hardest puncher in that sport, and made it mostly due to toughness and grit determination. Actually, it was his success in boxing that led me to the realisation that the difference in punching ability between boxers and top level kickboxers at the heavyweights isn't as great as I thought (punching ability mind, not boxing ability).

[nomadman]

The little K1 max guys are amazing, extremely technical and athletic. The HW K1 fighters are great but eh sometimes you can see some embarrassing striking technique.

I started losing interest in K-1 circa 2002 or whenever Sapp came on the scene, along with all those other freaks like Choi, Akebono, Silva and that Samoan guy whose name I forget. It started to become too much like toughman, and the smaller more skillful guys were being put at a disadvantage. And I was never really a big fan of Semmy, though I realise he was better than those others I mentioned. Give me Hug or Hoost anyday.

K-1 MAX, though, that was the shiznit. So many great, intense, back and forth fights fought at a high level of technical skill. I loved that stuff.

Guys like bob sapp stopped K1 legend Ernesto Hoost TWICE, that really surprised me

To be fair, Sapp had something like a 150lbs over Hoost, most of it pure muscle. That was just a massive size mismatch, and Hoost lacked the power to really keep him off.

[Someone88]

I started losing interest in K-1 circa 2002 or whenever Sapp came on the scene, along with all those other freaks like Choi, Akebono, Silva and that Samoan guy whose name I forget. It started to become too much like toughman, and the smaller more skillful guys were being put at a disadvantage. And I was never really a big fan of Semmy, though I realise he was better than those others I mentioned. Give me Hug or Hoost anyday.

K-1 MAX, though, that was the shiznit. So many great, intense, back and forth fights fought at a high level of technical skill. I loved that stuff.



To be fair, Sapp had something like a 150lbs over Hoost, most of it pure muscle. That was just a massive size mismatch, and Hoost lacked the power to really keep him off.

I think the Samoan guy you're talking about is Mo or Hunt. Still though if Sapp went to Boxing he would have lost to top 100 Boxers, Sefo and Crocop tkoed him as well. If Sapp charged at Tua like that Tua would have koed/tkoed him in a minute

[nomadman]

A lot of Fighters who don't even have close to Vitali's Boxing skills have done very well in K-1. Fighters like Sapp, Choi, Mo, Rampage, Sefo and Hunt did good there but in Boxing they wouldn't have even been top 70 with their skills.

The skills and attributes required to make it in K-1 are different from those required to make it in boxing. Someone like Shannon Briggs or Corrie Sanders would have had more success than Vitali IMO because of how fast and aggressively they started. K-1 fights are only three rounds, five max, and fighters have to focus a lot more on all out aggression. They can't afford to take a round off or wear their opponents down or implement long term gameplans that pay dividends later in the fight because there is no later.

I disagree with you about Sefo though. He had very respectable hands, one punch power, good athleticism and an excellent chin. Unfortunately, like a couple of other K-1 guys, he took boxing on as a sideline, didn't apply himself fully to the sport and got KOed by some journeyman called Chester Hughes. That's what I mean about determination and focus. Skelton was a slug, but after he left K-1 he had nothing to lose and just threw himself into the sport. This is a guy, let me remind you, who was outboxed and KOed in one round by Le Banner whilst he was still in his prime.

Vitali would smash Hari he was a Kickboxing Champion now he is a Boxing Champion, I'm not arguing with you or anything you're a good poster just saying that the talent gap is a lot between Kickboxing and Boxing along with that Vitali at heavyweight is a top two Boxer

Put the Hari of today against the young Vit of his kickboxing days under K-1 rules and I don't see anyone but Hari emerging victorious. Put the Hari of today in with the Vit of today under K-1 rules and I see Vit limping out the ring with possibly permanent leg damage. I'm not dissing Vitali here, but he would not beat Hari in kickboxing. Like I said, different sports, different outcomes.