Comments Thread For: DiBella: Lee is Ready For Chavez; VADA Testing Preferred

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  • jrosales13
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    #41
    Originally posted by CasualBoxingFan
    Like i said, it's hard to trust a liar. Let's stop here, we're going in circles.
    How is he a liar? He admitted to what he did, got punished for it. At least he did the time while others copped a deal and got off without doing anything.

    To me is hard to trust anyone who's not helping to get better testing. He along with a very respectable Margarette Goodman are helping.

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    • CasualBoxingFan
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      #42
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      How is he a liar? He admitted to what he did, got punished for it. At least he did the time while others copped a deal and got off without doing anything.

      To me is hard to trust anyone who's not helping to get better testing. He along with a very respectable Margarette Goodman are helping.
      Conte was only "sorry" because he got caught red handed, no way else to go but the truth, there was no moral incentive to tell the truth before the fact. He did not "rinse his hands", he was forced. He has Lied and helped fighters stay "clean" when they weren't.

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      • mushahadeen
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        #43
        Victor Conte has no incentive to lie about Sergio Martinez now. It's not like Conte is the first, everybody knows.

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        • jrosales13
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          #44
          Originally posted by CasualBoxingFan
          Conte was only "sorry" because he got caught red handed, no way else to go but the truth, there was no moral incentive to tell the truth before the fact. He did not "rinse his hands", he was forced. He has Lied and helped fighters stay "clean" when they weren't.
          Well everyone is sorry after they get caught. Victor Ortiz was very apologetic after he got caught with the ref even though he admitted that was his gameplan.

          He is helping the sport becoming more aware of better testing. And, that's great for the sport. Because, no one else really is doing it.

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          • mushahadeen
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            #45
            JCC JR is just trying to clean up the sport. If you're clean, you shouldn't have a problem with it.

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            • CasualBoxingFan
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              #46
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Well everyone is sorry after they get caught. Victor Ortiz was very apologetic after he got caught with the ref even though he admitted that was his gameplan.

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              proved my point , i'll just accept that we have our differences in our way of thinking.

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              • ShovelThumb
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                #47
                Andy Lee was getting slapped around by McEwan until he gassed. I don't rate his chances against JCC Jr.. he'd probably lose to Rubio too. Sad they're cherry picking for him.

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                • edgarg
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by vacon04
                  I never said that gaining 20 pounds means that they're taking something, or that not doing it means they're not taking steroids, but who would you doubt from first, from the guy who gains 20 pounds and still has good stamina or from the guy who gains 10 pounds and has good stamina?

                  Now saying that, I don't think that Jr is taking anything, and I think that Lee beats his ass anyway.

                  Edit: I think every major fight should go though doping tests.
                  It would be interesting to know what Chavez' weight was after the fight. If he was waterlogged, he could have lost up to 10 lbs.

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                  • edgarg
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    i just looked it up and was surprised to see that 100% of boxers are doping. cept for floyd. gotta call it like i see it.
                    It has been suggested tat Mayweather, during his long vacations from the ring, builds himself up with steroids, and after a long enough "detox" comes back to action, "clean"..... A not unreasonable speculation. We have to consider that Mayweather has already been known to crusade against others when it's been later found out that all the time, he himself is guilty of the same crimes.

                    Do you remember how he attacked poor Corrales and dedicated their fight to "all the battered wives" whilst pointing at Corrales who was already sentenced to a 2 year jail term ??

                    Then very shortly after, Mayweather himself was found to be charged for doing exactly the same thing and the charges were only dropped because his girl-friend decided to drop the charges. More than likely was paid off, since Mayweather looks at everything in terms of money...............

                    So to say that Mayweather being "clean" is debateable. He could be at his obsessive tricks of "outsmarting everybody".......

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                    • edgarg
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by CasualBoxingFan
                      Like i said, it's hard to trust a liar. Let's stop here, we're going in circles.
                      My elders always used to say that "a liar is worse than a thief".

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