Great fighters go Bad - Bad fighters get better

[Thread Stealer]

99% of great fighters went downhill in their careers.

As for fighters who made drastic improvements/turnarounds from early in their careers:

Pipino Cuevas lost 5 of his first 12 fights
Steve Robinson started out 5-6

[RichCCFC]

good or great?

Jermain Taylor went **** quickly, Kelly Pavlik too.


Glen Johnson got better with age, Pacquiao... etc

[FJRod]

Zab stands out... guys like Angel manfredy and that guy May fought yea the lineal champ @ 147 got better at some point in their careers. .....Oh yea Baldomir.

[kbpoetree]

Every single good fighter ever, went down hill...

Except...

lmao...k yeah he went undefeated..yeah he had like 2 legit wins if that really...he was a slapper..most true fans or even real boxers dont respect Slapzaghe...most of his wins were premature stoppages...sorry just the way i see it..but yeah i give him credit for his 0 in the L column good for somethan...but i wouldnt call him good enough to really go downhill either wich is y he ran out of the game so quick he knew Hop would kill him in a rematch so he retired like a lil biatch...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

lmao...k yeah he went undefeated..yeah he had like 2 legit wins if that really...he was a slapper..most true fans or even real boxers dont respect Slapzaghe...most of his wins were premature stoppages...sorry just the way i see it..but yeah i give him credit for his 0 in the L column good for somethan...but i wouldnt call him good enough to really go downhill either wich is y he ran out of the game so quick he knew Hop would kill him in a rematch so he retired like a lil biatch...

Why didnt Hopkins "kill" him the first time?

On topic: Johnny Nelson came to mind. He lost something like 12 fights before he came WBO Cruiserweight Champ and then went undefeated for 15 defences.

[kbpoetree]

Why didnt Hopkins "kill" him the first time?

On topic: Johnny Nelson came to mind. He lost something like 12 fights before he came WBO Cruiserweight Champ and then went undefeated for 15 defences.

well its all personal opinion....i just dont respect half the punches Slap lands..i feel HOp did do enough to win the first fight..but hey it went Slaps way so hey cant argue much altho it WAS a split decision and most pro's felt Hop won...i mainly just like getting under the skin of Slapzaghe fans lol

[Dirk Diggler UK]

well its all personal opinion....i just dont respect half the punches Slap lands..i feel HOp did do enough to win the first fight..but hey it went Slaps way so hey cant argue much altho it WAS a split decision and most pro's felt Hop won...i mainly just like getting under the skin of Slapzaghe fans lol

Sounds like you were the one who got all hot and bothered over my post.

46-0. Deal with it.

[kbpoetree]

Sounds like you were the one who got all hot and bothered over my post.

46-0. Deal with it.

lmao...if u want to respect a slapper who hits w the under side of his glove instead of his knuckles....fine w me....i got no probs w it...but funny thing is in AMERICA at least..when people talke about gr8s...Slaps name NEVER comes up lol

[kbpoetree]

lmao look at how often he holds the back of a boxers head and punches...lol good video of lot of his premature stoppages...altho one i thought looked legit in here.

[#1Assassin]

Why didnt Hopkins "kill" him the first time?

On topic: Johnny Nelson came to mind. He lost something like 12 fights before he came WBO Cruiserweight Champ and then went undefeated for 15 defences.

hopkins didnt kill jermain for three reasons.

1. he was unwilling to take risks.
2. jermain has a bad style for hopkins to go up against.
3. jermain was hungry. but after he won the titles and fired pat burns he got lazy, he stopped training between fights to get better and started putting on weight like crazy. then his camps would just be about losing weight which he would do in way too short a time period. in short jermain hasnt prepared properly for any of his fights between the hopkins rematch and the abraham fight.

on topic **** tiger comes to mind. he had a very bad start to his career, even his manager told him to retire. then he went on to be a world champion and one of the two best african fighters in history (i figure it comes down to him and azumah nelson).