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  • #51
    Originally posted by rambov View Post
    Man Pac gets owned daily now. I remember when he was a god.
    true that ,*******s will never see the light their guy gets his butt kicked and discredited about as clearly as u can sans getting ko'd and they refuse to accept hes simply not as advertised but thats all they have thatstheir only connection to boxing they only started watching boxing when pac came on the scene and theres nothing wrong with that, whats wrong with *******s is all their ignorance they spread ,insults and just total lack of boxing history or knowledge,and then they act like experts. ronnie nathaniels on pacs last fight- http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/ins...o-lost-marquez

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    • #52
      One thing that Cotto has going for him is this Cuban trainer.

      Cotto has to do something in the first three rounds. If he can't produce the storm in those three rounds he will be carried on a breeze to defeat.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Alem721 View Post
        I like MC chances against PBF! PBF is not a pressure fighter and throws 15 punches a round and loves to lay on the ropes! That plays into MC favor and having a better trainer will make a difference. PBF is not a better inside fighter than MC and will not have the legs to run around. I smell upset!!! Don't be shocked!

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Stl_Buay View Post
          Sorry to respond to you only because others wrote simular things. But, Pacquiao said BEFORE and AFTER the Margarito fight that he wasn't fighting above 147 again... Two factors you guys are missing Manny is a 140 pounder at best... Second you shouldn't be suprised if a guy has a fight at 150 and weighs inn at 144.5 against a guy that is taller (5 inches) longer reach (6 inches) and weight 17 pounds on fight night... Manny wasn't even 149 on fight night... To ask Manny to move up to 154 12 pounds above his walk around weight is kind of crazy. He is 5'6.5" and a 143 pounds and anything above 147 is too much... Floyd on the other hand walks around at 150 which anything above the 147 limit is JrMW. Which made the Mayweather vs. Marquez fight (catchweight) insane to me and especial when Floyd came in 2 pounds over. In boxing anything between 148 and 154 is a Jr MW because the WW limit is 147... Manny who has never weighed inn at 147 since moving to WW is clearly not a JrMW... Cotto says he is not a WW so PI don't see a problem with Cotto asking hey even thought you said before and after the Margarito fight you will never fight above 147 again because you weighed inn at 144.5 for a 150 pound fight and was outweighed 17 pounds in the ring, knowing all that have you changed you mind? And likewise Manny asking Cotto hey you tried to get Margarito to go down to 151 before accepting 153to defend your own 154 pound belt, so are you comfortable at 154 can you still make WW? There is nothing wrong with both guys saying no... Anybody who thinks Manny should fight at 154 or 150 again for that matter is insane. He hasn't even weighed in at 147 for a WW fight yet and has never weighed in above 150 on fight night... Where Floyd and Cotto always weigh over 150 on fight night since both guys moved to WW... Easy to understand when you use reason. Manny is just to small for 150 or 154... Just like his classic counterparts that made him famous are... Nobody expects Barrera, Marquez, are Morales to fight at 150 or 154 so why Manny??? Because he tried 150 once and came in at 144.5... He's just to small to fight above WW, hell he is even small for a WW, PERIOD
          As far as Margarito Im not going to disagree because I always felt pacman did take some punishment even though he won every round it wasnt easy. But if everything you say is true about him saying 150 and above its to much why even entertain any fights at the weight. If its not fair for him to move up it should be the same for his opponent as well. Its not right to make Cotto come down to 147. If Manny not a full welter then fight jr welters, you can't have it both ways, either fight at the limits or don't take it at all. As far as Floyd your way off. Floyd has never come in the ring at 150 or over, not even against Oscar who refused to be weighed on fight night. Floyds unofficial weight for fight night was 149 which means he lost a pound over night(He and pacman are probably the only guys who only hydrate only a couple pounds). Floyd has also only weighed in at the 147 limit once and that was against Hatton. And Marquez yes he did come in 2 pounds over so there isn't an argument from me on that even though Marquez still gets a beatdown if he didn't.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by yesir View Post
            if pac wasnt going above 47 why did he want 48? your post failed right there. Do no pass go or collect $200....better yet, just go str8 to dunceville

            stfu ******. team pac never offered 148. try to read the article again w/o floyd's balls in your eyes.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Alem721 View Post
              I like MC chances against PBF! PBF is not a pressure fighter and throws 15 punches a round and loves to lay on the ropes! That plays into MC favor and having a better trainer will make a difference. PBF is not a better inside fighter than MC and will not have the legs to run around. I smell upset!!! Don't be shocked!
              15 punches a round?? Come on man that makes no sense. Cotto is very good going to the body but Floyd is as well hes actually underrated on the inside.

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              • #57
                Floyd fighting Pacquiao's leftovers.

                [img]http://i231.***********.com/albums/ee212/RedSoxPrince/mj-laughing.gif[/img]

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                • #58
                  If you want to fight Pac u fight him at 147. This point has been emphasized for a long time. Why are people discussing it? He's adamant about not fighting above 147, or below it. Urrybody should know this by now. However, Pac is a little slut for wanting to rematch Cotto at 147. This moofokka wants all the advantages. He thought he had them all against an old Marquez, and he believed he would get the glorious KO his fans have craved for since the Cotto match. Pac has become a hoe.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Hi-Dro View Post
                    If you want to fight Pac u fight him at 147. This point has been emphasized for a long time. Why are people discussing it? He's adamant about not fighting above 147, or below it. Urrybody should know this by now. However, Pac is a little slut for wanting to rematch Cotto at 147. This moofokka wants all the advantages. He thought he had them all against an old Marquez, and he believed he would get the glorious KO his fans have craved for since the Cotto match. Pac has become a hoe.
                    Ha. I'm a Pac fan, and I agree with this to an extent. I'm just glad PAC v Cotto II didn't come off. It would have been another beat down at any weight. Pac needs to fight Bradley or Martinez, if not PBF. Any other fight is just an exercise in collecting a paycheck...

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                    • #60
                      Probably the best quote I've ever read!!!!!!!!

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