Pac refused to fight this version of Cotto without a CW

[The Big Dunn]

dunn where u at brahh.. i went back and all i see is u beating around the bush. u didnt actually say how u feel. u simply said u feel the same way u feel about manny and his CW. well how do u feel about that again? please refresh our memories and this time take pac's name out and replace it with floyd. LOL

see thats why we keep going back and forth. I feel that way about CW's in ANY title fight, not just the manny/cotto fight. I feel floyd negotiated the weight for an advantage, just like I said manny did. If you read all my posts in this thread you'd have seen this.

you are putting the emphasis on manny-making it seem like I feel this way only when manny does it-when its the CW's in title fights I don't like. everyone, even junior gong, got that except you. Its not about manny, you need to realize that.

[HeroBando]

it would be better if any title any fighter wins comes in a fight where the champion weighed the max of the division.

never argued otherwise. but if you're current champ, its incumbent on you to defend it at full weight, especially if going for the lineal belt. cause that's the meaning of being champ, you're the champ of all 154ers, not 152ers. guys taking cw belts moving up have a choice, defend at full weight or remain paper champ there. current champs dont really have a choice, refer to dictionary

[BuckToothed]

WTH, let's not bash Floyd yet since he hasn't won the belt(s)? He is freaking DEPENDING his own 154 strap at a catchweight!

Like I said, Manny got sh.tted for much less and now we have to wait for Floyd to win?

BTW, noone sh.tted on Pac before the fights because everyone thought ODLH and Cotto would steamroll him. Only in hindsight that you can hate.

No one in their right mind would think Canelo would steamroll Floyd and that the consensus is that his weight and youth are his only asset in this fight.

[The Big Dunn]

never argued otherwise. but if you're current champ, its incumbent on you to defend it at full weight, especially if going for the lineal belt. cause that's the meaning of being champ, you're the champ of all 154ers, not 152ers. guys taking cw belts moving up have a choice, defend at full weight or remain paper champ there. current champs dont really have a choice, refer to dictionary

we know floyd is the lineal ww champ. we know floyd has a 154lb belt he hasn't defended in a year. we know the wba didn't strip him of the 154lb belt because they knew this fight was coming and they wanted the huge sanctioning fee.

you are making very salient points in general. the problem is you are trying to act as if floyd is campaiging at 154 because you, based on your posts, want to make him worse than manny.

if criticizing floyd wasn't your main agenda-same with others-this thread would be about 50 posts rather than 300.

[Evol]

see thats why we keep going back and forth. I feel that way about CW's in ANY title fight, not just the manny/cotto fight. I feel floyd negotiated the weight for an advantage, just like I said manny did. If you read all my posts in this thread you'd have seen this.

you are putting the emphasis on manny-making it seem like I feel this way only when manny does it-when its the CW's in title fights I don't like. everyone, even junior gong, got that except you. Its not about manny, you need to realize that.

U see Dunn ur justifying it by bringing up manny. Manny was not the first to ask for a catch weight, when u were going in on manny u neve brought up another fighter and said they also asked for a catch weight. Even until now u still can't give me a straight answer. U said u feel Floyd did it for advantages just like manny. Lol. I'm done here it was nice making fun of u but I feel we will not get a straight answer from u not when It comes to Floyd. Pretty sad how some fans have to stood to this level just to protect their fighter. And yea u just don't go In on manny about his cw, u do it to everyone who asked for a cw, it's just that when it comes to manny u work extra hard lol.

[The Big Dunn]

U see Dunn ur justifying it by bringing up manny. Manny was not the first to ask for a catch weight, when u were going in on manny u neve brought up another fighter and said they also asked for a catch weight. Even until now u still can't give me a straight answer. U said u feel Floyd did it for advantages just like manny. Lol. I'm done here it was nice making fun of u but I feel we will not get a straight answer from u not when It comes to Floyd. Pretty sad how some fans have to stood to this level just to protect their fighter. And yea u just don't go In on manny about his cw, u do it to everyone who asked for a cw, it's just that when it comes to manny u work extra hard lol.

I absolutely ****ted on SRL for lalonde cw. don't lie dude.

Ive said floyd did it to gain a advantage. what more should I say?

[Evol]

Dunn, how do u feel about Floyd going back on his own words?? Also why do u think Floyd asked for a cw? Is it because canelo at 154 is to much? I mean if not then why would he asked for it? I'm kinda confused here.

[HeroBando]

we know floyd is the lineal ww champ. we know floyd has a 154lb belt he hasn't defended in a year. we know the wba didn't strip him of the 154lb belt because they knew this fight was coming and they wanted the huge sanctioning fee.

you are making very salient points in general. the problem is you are trying to act as if floyd is campaiging at 154 because you, based on your posts, want to make him worse than manny.

if criticizing floyd wasn't your main agenda-same with others-this thread would be about 50 posts rather than 300.

bud, as i said to another poster, at this point all you can do is thicken your skin. it's really too late to work on evasive skills. you know how long pac fans had to take the cw garbage? you're really depending on some good grace from the guys you've been ****ting for years. you know how hard the cw stigma is to shake, mix in the hypocrisy and you're really up **** creek

[Evol]

I absolutely ****ted on SRL for lalonde cw. don't lie dude.

Ive said floyd did it to gain a advantage. what more should I say?

And did u read what I said? I said its just that when it comes to manny and cw u work extra hard at it. So why would Floyd want an advantage? didn't he said he wants both fighters to be on even terms and that he wants to fight them at their best??

[Evol]

Dunn please go into details like how u would do to PAC. So u said Floyd asked for it probably for advantages purposes. Well please go into details. So are u saying canelo is too big for Floyd but cotto is not? more details man I'm Lost here.