Comments Thread For: Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Fallout Leads Names on Course

[Reloaded]

1) Cotto beat Mosley (you know ..Floyd's biggest win at WW)..He fought Cotto while having 1 fight in LW, 1 fight at WW, and 1 fight JWW.. all in a span of a year...

2) Oscar cherrypicked Pac.. Not to mention was a 5 to 1 underdog going to the fight..It was a fight that most people who had no chance to win..

3) He fought at Hatton's best weight, and a division where he is the lineal champ..

4) Pac should have not fought Mosley.. I agree with you there but not because Floyd beat him, but because Mosley was coming of an awful performance against Mora, and has not look good in 4 of his last 5 fights...

5) Marg weigh around 17 lbs heavier than Pac, not to mention that Pac just weigh in at 142.

**** eh , Manny should have fought Klit at 175 and Klit would be 190 on the night and be a walking deadman ,

You should try and get an understanding in the real world about the numbers you quote , I know they look great on paper but when you scrutinize what they really mean in the fight the truth is there ,,, Pac has been WEIGHT DRAINING fighters which takes away on the night any weight advantage . Manny is strong and fast they are slow and weakened , for them its not a normal dry out to make weight like they do at their comfortable weight , its not the same water exchange because they have to waste muscle in training to make it , that dont come back on over night only water does .

Less muscle = less water holding capacity less exchange rate = lighter weigh-in weight = cannot rehydrate to normal weight because of wasting = a definite performance hit ,,,, if your way out like ODH your ***ed . other wise you will be ranging anywhere from very flat to a little flat , depending on the amount of wasting and salt retention of your individual system .

Fighters dont practice making a lighter weight , they have a feeling and if the money is right they will give it a try because they are prize fighters , even trainers dont manipulate the weight to their full potential , Freddie Roach did and he learned a lesson also , going up as in JMM is very different to making them come down as in ODH , Cotto Margo . Freddie thought he was disadvantaging JMM and he said so openly , but it backfired because going up wont hurt you going down will .

Look at Oscar vs Forbes at 150 , Oscar showed then 147 was gunna be trouble , but 145 ,, jesssus he and his team skrewed up , his feeling in making 147 was WRONG !

[Bong Bong]

If Floyd doesnt KO Cotto, his stock will dip.

[mikemurni]

**** eh , Manny should have fought Klit at 175 and Klit would be 190 on the night and be a walking deadman ,

You should try and get an understanding in the real world about the numbers you quote , I know they look great on paper but when you scrutinize what they really mean in the fight the truth is there ,,, Pac has been WEIGHT DRAINING fighters which takes away on the night any weight advantage . Manny is strong and fast they are slow and weakened , for them its not a normal dry out to make weight like they do at their comfortable weight , its not the same water exchange because they have to waste muscle in training to make it , that dont come back on over night only water does .

Less muscle = less water holding capacity less exchange rate = lighter weigh-in weight = cannot rehydrate to normal weight because of wasting = a definite performance hit ,,,, if your way out like ODH your ***ed . other wise you will be ranging anywhere from very flat to a little flat , depending on the amount of wasting and salt retention of your individual system .

Fighters dont practice making a lighter weight , they have a feeling and if the money is right they will give it a try because they are prize fighters , even trainers dont manipulate the weight to their full potential , Freddie Roach did and he learned a lesson also , going up as in JMM is very different to making them come down as in ODH , Cotto Margo . Freddie thought he was disadvantaging JMM and he said so openly , but it backfired because going up wont hurt you going down will .

Look at Oscar vs Forbes at 150 , Oscar showed then 147 was gunna be trouble , but 145 ,, jesssus he and his team skrewed up , his feeling in making 147 was WRONG !

Oh quit your whining... The only dehydrated fighter that Pac fought was Oscar, and it wasnt his fault that Oscar failed to rehydrate properly on a weight that he chose Pac to fight.. At least Pac did not set a catchweight that he cant and wont make, not like some other douche fighter that you and I know...

[amayseng]

so lemme get this straight

if floyd fights cotto at 150 its draining.

but pacquiao fighting cotto at 145 is NOT draining???

nope i agree, never said that was not either.

[David1976]

What Floyd really wants is a fight against a Lightweight, at a catchweight, and then come in at 147 regardless, and demolish the opponent like he did Marquez. What Pacquiao really wants is Cotto at 151-152 whereby we see a similar fight as we did before.

[ihatebobarum]

If Floyd doesnt KO Cotto, his stock will dip.

if i dont **** your mum my ****k will dip.

[Reloaded]

Oh quit your whining... The only dehydrated fighter that Pac fought was Oscar, and it wasnt his fault that Oscar failed to rehydrate properly on a weight that he chose Pac to fight.. At least Pac did not set a catchweight that he cant and wont make, not like some other douche fighter that you and I know...

And thats your pu$$y answer , pac ******s are so about hype , Arum loves you .

[leonthegee]

Hey Mayweather fans! If he's such a stud why doesn't he fight Martinez???

Hey genius thats great except Martinez already has a fight in March. So hows he going to fight again in May?

[tlarry]

Mayweather SHOULD Fight Cotto At 150 Or Heavier!

There's no slight on Pacquiao... Manny already stopped Cotto at an agreed weight limit. Mayweather is naturally larger than Cotto, so he shoudl be fighting Cotto at 150+. Manny doesn't need to take that fight. Floyd has ducked Cotto forever and now that he thinks Cotto is well past his prime, he wants to take him on now. Mayweather won't step up and fight Sergio Martinez. He won't fight Marcos Maidana even who is smaller than Floyd. And as we have come to accept for the last three years, he has no interest getting in the ring with Manny Pacquiao; he wants the payday, he doesn't want the risk, or the beatdown that comes with that fight. Mayweather needs to grow a pair. Would love to see Cotto turn that fight into a street fight, and rough up Mayweather.

[tlarry]

Mayweather needs to grow a set!!!

Pacquiao has fought everyone. Barrera (2), Morales (3), Marquez (3) all in their primes, and before Manny's prime. He's fought Oscar, Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, Clottey, Mosley as well. Floyd has avoided Manny for 3 years. Floyd avoided not only Manny, but he avoided Marcos Maidana, opting for Victor Ortiz, even after Maidana destroyed Ortiz in 6 rounds. Now the only reason Mayweather is talking about Cotto, is that he thinks he's one dimensional, well past his prime, had too many wars, and has nothing left; a safe route to the bank. Mayweather is not cut from the cloth of legends before him: Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Arguello, Chavez, or even Oscar and Mosley. Those legends fought the best of the best, in their primes, multiple times, up and down weight classes, Win, Lose, or Draw. They cared nothing about hand-picking opponents their entire career, all for the sake of a "0". Nobody cares if you're undefeated, if you never got in the ring with the best of the best.