Pacquiao vs. Bradley

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  • 915angel
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    #21
    12 rounds pac>timmy in a ugly fight

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    • ИATAS
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      #22
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Whatever, small, big...he's a welter. If he felt any way about it he would've fought Marquez at 135 or 140. Instead, he felt fighting him at welter was to his advantage. Plus, he's been fighting there for years now. Go back and look at welters throughout history. Tommy Hearns was 145 when he fought Leonard. Heck, Cotto fought Pacquiao at 145. They aren't the same size wise though, nor do they rehydrate the same. Bottom line, they're all welters.
      lol bad example man Hearns & Leonard were huge welterweights, espeically hearns. It's not crazy for me to say pac is a small welterweight, it's obvious he is. He is fighting at welterweight and that's his choice, but he's only doing so cuz he can get away with it. I always said if pac (and even floyd) were fighting in the era of hearns & leonard, they would never fight at 147, never. They are way too small for talented guys like that.

      If pac had some big size advantage over his opponents at 147 then I would agree but he doesn't, he's always smaller or approximately the same size. And bradley isn't any different they are pretty much the same size. Pac is a small dude man.

      Same goes for Cotto at 154. I never felt he has any real business fighting there, but he is so we must call him a JMW (just like pac a WW), doesn't mean I don't think they are small for their divisions. Eddie Chambers is a small ass heavyweight fighting at 205. If he lost 5 pounds he could fight at CW. He's a small heavyweight. It is what it is.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #23
        Originally posted by ИATAS206
        lol bad example man Hearns & Leonard were huge welterweights, espeically hearns. It's not crazy for me to say pac is a small welterweight, it's obvious he is. He is fighting at welterweight and that's his choice, but he's only doing so cuz he can get away with it. I always said if pac (and even floyd) were fighting in the era of hearns & leonard, they would never fight at 147, never. They are way too small for talented guys like that.

        If pac had some big size advantage over his opponents at 147 then I would agree but he doesn't, he's always smaller or approximately the same size. And bradley isn't any different they are pretty much the same size. Pac is a small dude man.

        Same goes for Cotto at 154. I never felt he has any real business fighting there, but he is so we must call him a JMW (just like pac a WW), doesn't mean I don't think they are small for their divisions. Eddie Chambers is a small ass heavyweight fighting at 205. If he lost 5 pounds he could fight at CW. He's a small heavyweight. It is what it is.
        When you've been fighting at one weight for over two years - in this case considerably longer - you are that weight. Whether you want to call him or small welter, big welter...it really doesn't matter. He's a welter. Enough of a welter to make others come up to welter to fight him.

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        • J-Smooth
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          #24
          pac skull ****s him

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          • ИATAS
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            #25
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            When you've been fighting at one weight for over two years - in this case considerably longer - you are that weight. Whether you want to call him or small welter, big welter...it really doesn't matter. He's a welter. Enough of a welter to make others come up to welter to fight him.
            I know he's a welterweight. What's the big deal if I call someone a big welterweight or a small welterweight? Especially in this context when we're talking about a potential pac vs bradley fight. I'm just saying I don't see a big size difference is all, I don't think size is a factor. Maybe I'm wrong maybe pac absolutely destroys bradley because he's so massively big. I just don't see it that way.

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            • immortal tech
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              #26
              Bradley is getting KO'd in a boring fight

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              • IMDAZED
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                #27
                Originally posted by ИATAS206
                I know he's a welterweight. What's the big deal if I call someone a big welterweight or a small welterweight? Especially in this context when we're talking about a potential pac vs bradley fight. I'm just saying I don't see a big size difference is all, I don't think size is a factor. Maybe I'm wrong maybe pac absolutely destroys bradley because he's so massively big. I just don't see it that way.
                Exactly? What is the big deal? It doesn't matter. He's a welter. Marquez is not. Neither is Bradley. And the reason he couldn't KO Marquez isn't because he's a small "welter." He was a big feather and couldn't KO him either.

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                • eklok
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                  #28
                  imdazed is an idiot!!!! floyd is a coward btw , manny is a small welterweight , komprende ?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Exactly? What is the big deal? It doesn't matter. He's a welter. Marquez is not. Neither is Bradley. And the reason he couldn't KO Marquez isn't because he's a small "welter." He was a big feather and couldn't KO him either.
                    OK cool I'm not talking about marquez though that's a totally different fighter. but even then size wasn't as issue cause for one it looked to me marquez put on the extra weight perfectly fine and two, well like you said he knows how to fight pacquiao he's a boxer, a fantastic counter puncher, etc.

                    Bradley vs Pac will be just about the same size. The biggest problem for bradley imo is not moving up from 140 to 147 to fight pac it's that he doesn't pack much punch. I think that will be hard for him to get pac's respect if he can't hurt him.

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                    • LA_2_Vegas
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ИATAS206
                      OK cool I'm not talking about marquez though that's a totally different fighter. but even then size wasn't as issue cause for one it looked to me marquez put on the extra weight perfectly fine and two, well like you said he knows how to fight pacquiao he's a boxer, a fantastic counter puncher, etc.

                      Bradley vs Pac will be just about the same size. The biggest problem for bradley imo is not moving up from 140 to 147 to fight pac it's that he doesn't pack much punch. I think that will be hard for him to get pac's respect if he can't hurt him.
                      I'd only consider Pac bigger because he has acclimated himself to taking bigger shots fighters bigger than him at WW for a while. Other than that, yeah they are about the same size. Makes for more competitive fights for Manny because the speed of the guys coming up are closer to than than some of his opponents at welter. Like you said though, gonna be hard for Bradley to get Pac's respect enough to discourage him doing his normal thing....good chance for a KO at any time for Pac I think

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