Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Floyd Mayweather will never fight defensively against a southpaw...

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #11
    Agree to disagree......

    "I think you need to watch more Mayweather tape."

    I don't. I am 31 years old; been watching boxing since I was 5. I grew up sparring and I train to this day. I know the sport. You may disagree with me and that's ok but don't tell me I need to watch more tape. My post was well thoughtout and a fight between the two could play out that way as well.

    I could also see May fighting brave and testing Manny's power for 12 rounds. He is the much bigger fighter and should win easy, but he won't. But one thing I'd like to add is that fighters behave a certain way in the ring. I don't totally agree that styles make fights. I believe that styles complicates fights. That to me makes more sense.

    Roach isn't ****** and neither is Manny. They will neutralize his right hand. Cotto will to if they fight. Remember this, one attribute doesn't beat a great fighter. Manny's power isn't going to win the fight. May's defense or right hand won't win the fight. Whoever puts all that together in harmony on that night, will win. He can beat May and May can beat him. It's not carved in stone that because everyone thinks May is such a great boxer and is out of another fighters league. I don't buy it because I'm smarter than that. Level of opposition has something to do with a fighter being this far into their career, without a loss.

    Comment


    • #12
      Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
      "I think you need to watch more Mayweather tape."

      I don't. I am 31 years old; been watching boxing since I was 5. I grew up sparring and I train to this day. I know the sport. You may disagree with me and that's ok but don't tell me I need to watch more tape. My post was well thoughtout and a fight between the two could play out that way as well.

      I could also see May fighting brave and testing Manny's power for 12 rounds. He is the much bigger fighter and should win easy, but he won't. But one thing I'd like to add is that fighters behave a certain way in the ring. I don't totally agree that styles make fights. I believe that styles complicates fights. That to me makes more sense.

      Roach isn't ****** and neither is Manny. They will neutralize his right hand. Cotto will to if they fight. Remember this, one attribute doesn't beat a great fighter. Manny's power isn't going to win the fight. May's defense or right hand won't win the fight. Whoever puts all that together in harmony on that night, will win. He can beat May and May can beat him. It's not carved in stone that because everyone thinks May is such a great boxer and is out of another fighters league. I don't buy it because I'm smarter than that. Level of opposition has something to do with a fighter being this far into their career, without a loss.
      When have you ever seen manny neutralize a great right hand when its from atg level fighters? Morales and Marquez both had success with their great hands. manny had the privilege of familiarizing himself with Marquez in 24 prior rounds before the 3rd fight with Marquez and still couldn't figure out how to stop that right. It was clear from start to finish that manny failed to neutralize that right. Mayweather's right hand is legendary compared to Marquez and Morales rights.

      what has Cotto shown to suggest he can solve a right the caliber of Mayweather's?

      Comment


      • #13
        there were some people who said Floyd used a reverse philly shell against ortiz, I watched those 4 rounds about 50 times each and couldn't find the round where Floyd did this

        were people just misinformed or did i miss it?

        Comment


        • #14
          Interesting......

          "Morales and Marquez both had success with their great hands."

          What version of Manny was that? It was before he became the fighter he is today. You see what happened to Morales in fights two and three. The start of Manny becoming a complete fighter was against David Diaz. From that point on, he was a much improved fighter.

          His thrid fight against Marquez, was his best oout of the three and was the most convincing win. Marquez landed the more eye-popping "single shots" but he is a Hall Of Famer. Manny was smart enough to neutralize that right hand most of the fight. His defense has vastly improved. His footwork is a beautiful thing to watch at times man. He blocked and dodged many of Marquez's punches. He out threw and out landed him. If they fought again, it would be the same result or even worse for Marquez. It was a close fight but that's what happens when you fight the best. You can't and will not dominate every opponent.

          As for Cotto. He has always had a high boxing I.Q. Unfortunately for him, he was also his own trainer and boss in his camps. He is a much improved fighter also. His defense has improved and he is smarter in the ring than ever before. Outside of May's right hand, he simply doesn't throw enough punches to keep a great fighter off him. All of Cotto's strengths, are his weaknesses. May is hittable by an opponent with a great jab. He gives you his body. He has a low punch output. Hmmm, Cotto has a great left jab. The best since Oscar in those divisions. He is a vicious body puncher and he is busy enough to keep May on the defensive. This is an intriguing fight. You agree? He has great legs and has a good chance of winning that fight. May isn't the same fighter he use to be. He would gain my respect even more with a victory over Cotto at 154. If he chooses to fight anyone else on May 5th, I'd be disappointed.

          Comment


          • #15
            You can easily counter fight a southpaw.

            Comment


            • #16
              Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
              "Morales and Marquez both had success with their great hands."

              What version of Manny was that? It was before he became the fighter he is today. You see what happened to Morales in fights two and three. The start of Manny becoming a complete fighter was against David Diaz. From that point on, he was a much improved fighter.

              His thrid fight against Marquez, was his best oout of the three and was the most convincing win. Marquez landed the more eye-popping "single shots" but he is a Hall Of Famer. Manny was smart enough to neutralize that right hand most of the fight. His defense has vastly improved. His footwork is a beautiful thing to watch at times man. He blocked and dodged many of Marquez's punches. He out threw and out landed him. If they fought again, it would be the same result or even worse for Marquez. It was a close fight but that's what happens when you fight the best. You can't and will not dominate every opponent.

              As for Cotto. He has always had a high boxing I.Q. Unfortunately for him, he was also his own trainer and boss in his camps. He is a much improved fighter also. His defense has improved and he is smarter in the ring than ever before. Outside of May's right hand, he simply doesn't throw enough punches to keep a great fighter off him. All of Cotto's strengths, are his weaknesses. May is hittable by an opponent with a great jab. He gives you his body. He has a low punch output. Hmmm, Cotto has a great left jab. The best since Oscar in those divisions. He is a vicious body puncher and he is busy enough to keep May on the defensive. This is an intriguing fight. You agree? He has great legs and has a good chance of winning that fight. May isn't the same fighter he use to be. He would gain my respect even more with a victory over Cotto at 154. If he chooses to fight anyone else on May 5th, I'd be disappointed.
              The slightly improved pacquiao that fought Marquez last November struggled hard. Had he got that much better by the time the trilogy happened Marquez wouldn't have done as well as he did. manny fell for rights over and over again. pacquiao's right hook counter couldn't stop Marquez right. Many people felt manny lost and polls after the fight reflected this thought among the fans. It wasn't convincing in any way for manny pacquiao. How does a fighter who's generally loved by most people end up getting booed in the arena and have a bottle thrown at his head for a 'convincing decision'?

              Cotto has shown some improved defense such as pivoting, lateral movement, and clinching. The issue is who he managed to show it against. margarito is a low ring iq and very slow fighter where movement will suffice for defending against him. Mayweather has better footwork than Cotto. Moving around for movement won't be an option since Mayweather has a significant speed advantage and Cotto would be the one doing the chasing unlike his recent marg fight. No way Miguel I only learned how to clinch one fight ago Cotto has a better clinch game than someone who has done it all their life like Mayweather.

              Mayweather throws the jab to the body very frequently. That punch is great for stopping someone's rhythm. Cotto's stance is perfect for taking that stab down low.

              Mayweather has seen a better jab than Cotto's when he fought Oscar. He ended up outjabbing Oscar with his own jab. Cotto is the type who needs to set everything up behind his jab.

              Cotto-Mayweather would be a great fight to watch but not competitive. Martinez gives Mayweather a tougher fight.

              Comment


              • #17
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                Coming forward doesn't automatically mean brawling. Certain fighters are more creative than others see the Mayweather-Judah, Mayweather-Mosley, and Mayweather-Ortiz tapes.

                pacquiao has the mentality of a bully and would respect effective aggression especially if his own aggression is being negated. Morales had success with plenty of aggression.
                I get you I've seen them but it would be a different fight it's hard to say

                Comment


                • #18
                  Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
                  "Morales and Marquez both had success with their great hands."

                  What version of Manny was that? It was before he became the fighter he is today. You see what happened to Morales in fights two and three. The start of Manny becoming a complete fighter was against David Diaz. From that point on, he was a much improved fighter.

                  His thrid fight against Marquez, was his best oout of the three and was the most convincing win. Marquez landed the more eye-popping "single shots" but he is a Hall Of Famer. Manny was smart enough to neutralize that right hand most of the fight. His defense has vastly improved. His footwork is a beautiful thing to watch at times man. He blocked and dodged many of Marquez's punches. He out threw and out landed him. If they fought again, it would be the same result or even worse for Marquez. It was a close fight but that's what happens when you fight the best. You can't and will not dominate every opponent.

                  As for Cotto. He has always had a high boxing I.Q. Unfortunately for him, he was also his own trainer and boss in his camps. He is a much improved fighter also. His defense has improved and he is smarter in the ring than ever before. Outside of May's right hand, he simply doesn't throw enough punches to keep a great fighter off him. All of Cotto's strengths, are his weaknesses. May is hittable by an opponent with a great jab. He gives you his body. He has a low punch output. Hmmm, Cotto has a great left jab. The best since Oscar in those divisions. He is a vicious body puncher and he is busy enough to keep May on the defensive. This is an intriguing fight. You agree? He has great legs and has a good chance of winning that fight. May isn't the same fighter he use to be. He would gain my respect even more with a victory over Cotto at 154. If he chooses to fight anyone else on May 5th, I'd be disappointed.
                  The best since Oscar in those divisions ?
                  Where you get that from Oscar tried jabing with Floyd and got countered constantly and cottos jab is even slower then oscars he's definite to get countered and beat to a pulp plus the fact that he cuts and bruises and swells form everything the fight would be stopped.

                  If a old Margo could catch him if mayorga could if Forman could with right hands and left hooks then Floyd will smoke his a$$ with em

                  Comment


                  • #19
                    Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
                    "Morales and Marquez both had success with their great hands."

                    What version of Manny was that? It was before he became the fighter he is today. You see what happened to Morales in fights two and three. The start of Manny becoming a complete fighter was against David Diaz. From that point on, he was a much improved fighter.

                    His thrid fight against Marquez, was his best oout of the three and was the most convincing win. Marquez landed the more eye-popping "single shots" but he is a Hall Of Famer. Manny was smart enough to neutralize that righ:smiley***t hand most of the fight. His defense has vastly improved. His footwork is a beautiful thing to watch at times man. He blocked and dodged many of Marquez's punches. He out threw and out landed him. If they fought again, it would be the same result or even worse for Marquez. It was a close fight but that's what happens when you fight the best. You can't and will not dominate every opponent.

                    As for Cotto. He has always had a high boxing I.Q. Unfortunately for him, he was also his own trainer and boss in his camps. He is a much improved fighter also. His defense has improved and he is smarter in the ring than ever before. Outside of May's right hand, he simply doesn't throw enough punches to keep a great fighter off him. All of Cotto's strengths, are his weaknesses. May is hittable by an opponent with a great jab. He gives you his body. He has a low punch output. Hmmm, Cotto has a great left jab. The best since Oscar in those divisions. He is a vicious body puncher and he is busy enough to keep May on the defensive. This is an intriguing fight. You agree? He has great legs and has a good chance of winning that fight. May isn't the same fighter he use to be. He would gain my respect even more with a victory over Cotto at 154. If he chooses to fight anyone else on May 5th, I'd be disappointed.
                    You sound like a fool. You don't know boxing.

                    Comment


                    • #20
                      I agree.......

                      "he cuts and bruises and swells from everything the fight would be stopped."

                      I worry about that! But remember; He protects better nowadays than he use to. Steward made sure to address that first. He's more aware of trying to block and dodge now. However it ends, I am excited to see it unfold. You?

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP