Comments Thread For: Mayweather: If Martinez Can Make 150, We Can Fight

[Ray*]

One thing is for sure though, If Mayweather fights Martinez at 160 it would do way more for his legacy than if he fights him at 154.

[Bushbaby]

You see, Dunn claims he's not defending a ginger/Floyd fight. But by his logic he thinks Martinez should move up to 168, a weight he's never even fought at & fight Ward the best fighter there. While neither Floyd nor Pacman has ever fought the best fighter at 154 & both have been champs there. (At least in Floyd's case he beat 2 legitimate champs).

Martinez has yet to weight in at the middleweight limit. He's constantly said he wants either Floyd or Pacman at 154. The fight is doable considering Floyd is a 2 time 154lb champ. I've already called it. Floyd will fight ginger, duck Martinez & his fans will love him for it.

I don't even bring Pacman into this argument because Pacman won't even fight Miguel Cotto without a weight stip, there's no way he'll fight Martinez. But Floyd is a 2 time champ at 154, which is why I do not see how that's compared to Martinez fighting Ward at 168 having never even fought there. Besides Ward IMO is pfp right now the beast fighter drawing breath.

[tredh]

well thats not true because Canelo accounts for all of the sales when he fights on floyds undercard, so if he is in the main event, maybe the ppv sells 2x as much.

Seriously though, the sport needs floyd/sergio and foyd/canelo equally, but for different reasons. We need another Hagler/Leonard fight. But we also need 1.5-2 mil people buying a ppv so the broners, garcias (danny and mikey),moreno's, and some other really good young fighters can get seen.

LLS at the bold some people will give their life telling you that is the truth.

Anybody PBF fights will get younger fighters seen if they are on the undercard. At the sametime fighting on ESPN, NBCSports, Comcast is not a bad thing either. But more important that getting on the undercards of TV and PPV dates is fighting in YOUR OWN HOMETOWN.

That is younger fighter problems and they to caught up not to see it. Build up your hometown fanbase with good fights and when its time for you to travel all of those hometown fans who can travel will travel to see you fight and it doesn't matter if most of them only buy the cheap seats. The point is that they came. Young boxers need to look at what some of the musicians are doing by getting tons of youtube, twitter, facebook and instagram followers from they hometowns and once that is established branch out a little bit and then record labels come calling them and not the musician calling the labels.
I know fighters are completely different than musicians but the point is build a fanbase first before you start trying to jump at the big dogs and get turned down constantly cause you have no fanbase or have to take 5% cause you bring nothing to the table.

[The Big Dunn]

You see, Dunn claims he's not defending a ginger/Floyd fight. But by his logic he thinks Martinez should move up to 168, a weight he's never even fought at & fight Ward the best fighter there. While neither Floyd nor Pacman has ever fought the best fighter at 154 & both have been champs there. (At least in Floyd's case he beat 2 legitimate champs).

Martinez has yet to weight in at the middleweight limit. He's constantly said he wants either Floyd or Pacman at 154. The fight is doable considering Floyd is a 2 time 154lb champ. I've already called it. Floyd will fight ginger, duck Martinez & his fans will love him for it.

I don't even bring Pacman into this argument because Pacman won't even fight Miguel Cotto without a weight stip, there's no way he'll fight Martinez. But Floyd is a 2 time champ at 154, which is why I do not see how that's compared to Martinez fighting Ward at 168 having never even fought there. Besides Ward IMO is pfp right now the beast fighter drawing breath.

No bush, I dont think Martinez should go up. I think you are applying different standards to different fighters. why you continually pretend you don't understand is beyond me.

You want floyd to choose challenge over money to fight sergio, who would come down in weight ONLY because he is choosing money over challenge. Thats absurd.

[Bushbaby]

No bush, I dont think Martinez should go up. I think you are applying different standards to different fighters. why you continually pretend you don't understand is beyond me.

You want floyd to choose challenge over money to fight sergio, who would come down in weight ONLY because he is choosing money over challenge. Thats absurd.

How is fighting Floyd, universally recognized pfp #1 fighter at 154 not a challenge, bro?? Please explain that to me.

[laudium]

Floyd should stop being a contradictory fool and fight Sergio @ 154. Didnt he knock Manny for "weight draining" his opponents. He fought Cotto and Oscar @ 154, so why the heck not fight Martinez there

[The Big Dunn]

LLS at the bold some people will give their life telling you that is the truth.

Anybody PBF fights will get younger fighters seen if they are on the undercard. At the sametime fighting on ESPN, NBCSports, Comcast is not a bad thing either. But more important that getting on the undercards of TV and PPV dates is fighting in YOUR OWN HOMETOWN.

That is younger fighter problems and they to caught up not to see it. Build up your hometown fanbase with good fights and when its time for you to travel all of those hometown fans who can travel will travel to see you fight and it doesn't matter if most of them only buy the cheap seats. The point is that they came. Young boxers need to look at what some of the musicians are doing by getting tons of youtube, twitter, facebook and instagram followers from they hometowns and once that is established branch out a little bit and then record labels come calling them and not the musician calling the labels.
I know fighters are completely different than musicians but the point is build a fanbase first before you start trying to jump at the big dogs and get turned down constantly cause you have no fanbase or have to take 5% cause you bring nothing to the table.

excellent points. the landscape has changed and the sport needs to change with it. Boxing fans need sergio/floyd because it harkens back to the days when the best fought each other. the sport needs this to sustain it.

I just am not as mad about Canelo as bush is and I think his anger clouds his arguement.

[waxfondler]

Floyd should stop being a contradictory fool and fight Sergio @ 154. Didnt he knock Manny for "weight draining" his opponents. He fought Cotto and Oscar @ 154, so why the heck not fight Martinez there

this post sums it up pretty good...

im happy floyd is back and want to see something great, but sergio @ 150 is NOT it.

[The Big Dunn]

How is fighting Floyd, universally recognized pfp #1 fighter at 154 not a challenge, bro?? Please explain that to me.

NOT HIS BEST CHALLENGE BUSH.

The same way manny is a challenge for floyd, but is not percieved to be more difficult then Sergio because of the weight difference. Ward for the same reasons, would be more difficult for sergio than floyd.

[Bushbaby]

NOT HIS BEST CHALLENGE BUSH.

The same way manny is a challenge for floyd, but is not percieved to be more difficult then Sergio because of the weight difference. Ward for the same reasons, would be more difficult for sergio than floyd.

So, do you think Pacman can beat Floyd?

Cause I know you think Floyd beats Sergio.

But I know you know Pacman stands no chance. So I don't understand why you'd bring up Pacman, who doesn't even belong in a convo bout elite fighters. Seems like you know deep down that Floyd isn't the best fighter capable of competing at 154 & you're trying too hard because you simply are afraid of the outcome of Floyd/Martinez.

So you bring up Ward to defend Floyd. But it's not the same cause everyone knows Martinez never fought at 168 & they know he cannot compete with Ward. What everyone doesn't know is who would win if the consensus #1 pfp, (Floyd) fights the consensus #3 (Martinez).