James Kirkland: "I just tear a piece of their soul...the old Kirkland is back"

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  • Oxn
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    #61
    Originally posted by savorduhflavor
    Me too(great fight). And with what Angulo had left he could have gotten a 10 foot head start, crow hopped, and hit Brian Viloria with his hands tied behind his back with his best shot and he wouldn't have knocked him down.





    Not sure what you're trying to bet...Kirkland against who?
    Molina.

    I got kirkland.

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    • savorduhflavor
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      #62
      Originally posted by ИATAS206
      here is one, go to 18:24 of this video and you'll see angulo land a big right hand right on kirkland's chin, that makes his head turn violently sideways and spit fly from his mouth:

      http://sport-rewind.blogspot.com/201...gulo-full.html
      Were you referring to the exchange in replay? I mean that doesn't mean much to me. Cotto violently snaps people's heads back with his jab but it doesn't mean much.

      He was slow and his punches were lethargic and this was clear in real time.

      I'm not against Kirkland man, I just don't think the Angulo fight was was at all indicative of him proving his chin.

      I think he'll walk through Molina though...

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        #63
        Originally posted by savorduhflavor
        I didn't say Angulo wasn't a big puncher I said he wasn't a massive KO puncher like you were alluding to.

        I mean if Kirkland proves he can take those kind of punches than good for him, he's nothing but good for the sport. Fire in the ring I'll be tuning in every time he fights. I'm just not convinced yet that he can take sharp punches is all...

        I mean Angulo hit him with one decent shot than completely blew his load while landing pretty much nothing....not the best barometer. What it showed he had is guile and heart to survive, which is impressive in and of itself.
        actually if you want to go strictly by ko percentages angulo is a massive ko artist. he has 20 fights & 17 of those coming by knock out........

        dude, did you watch the fight? angulo hit him with multiple good shots.......he landed a right hook on the jaw & it snapped kirklands head back......as blood flew out of his mouth. (are you serious?) you need to go back & watch all of the shots angulo landed........to say that angulo landed that one shot & nothing else reveals your true bias........angulo didn't blow his load he couldn't keep up with kirklands stamina........you guys posting on boxingscene have no clue what type of condition wolf beats into kirkland. she has him sparring 4 guys at once, 15 16 17 round sessions, while one arm being tied behind his back.......she makes him run all day & all night. she destroys this kid........you guys posting on here have NO clue what you're talking about.............angulo was not gonna match kirklands pace therefore he took a beating............


        if they had a rematch he would get ko'd sooner.................


        i can't wait for kirkland vs lara.

        but first, let us deal with kirkland vs molina.
        Last edited by americanbot; 01-18-2012, 03:28 PM.

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        • savorduhflavor
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          #64
          Originally posted by Oxn
          Molina.

          I got kirkland.
          Nah I got Kirkland in that fight.

          I don't think Kirkland is some bum, jeez. I just think that when he faces a guy with quick hands that will be able to catch him with crisp, precise punches that he doesn't see coming he might not stand up to the punch. Or maybe he will and maybe your guys are right that he's just tight in the 1st. I'm just saying he hasn't shown that to me yet.

          But Molina aint a sharp puncher. He's a gritty guy who punches kind of like angulo, wide and slow, and just outworks people. That's a guy Kirkland should walk through.

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            #65
            Originally posted by americanbot
            actually if you want to go strictly by ko percentages angulo is a massive ko artist. he has 20 fights & 17 of those coming by knock out........

            dude, did you watch the fight? angulo hit him with multiple good shots.......he landed a right hook on the jaw & it snapped his kirklands head back......as blood flew out of his mouth. (are you serious?) you need to go back & watch all of the shots angulo landed........to say that angulo landed that one shot & nothing else reveals your true bias........angulo didn't blow his load he couldn't keep up with kirklands stamina........you guys posting on boxingscene have no clue what type of condition wolf beats into kirkland. she has him sparring 4 guys at once, 15 16 17 round sessions, while one arm being tied behind his back.......she makes him run all day & all night. she destroys this kid........you guys posting on here have NO clue what you're talking about.............angulo was not gonna match kirklands pace therefore he took a beating............


            if they had a rematch he would get ko'd sooner.................


            i can't wait for kirkland vs lara.

            but first, let us deal with kirkland vs molina.
            Yes cause KO% is something you should go by. My goodness. Angulo stops people by wearing them down not by sparking them out.

            The way his face was contorted from a punch means nothing. My god you are reaching.

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              #66
              Originally posted by savorduhflavor
              Nah I got Kirkland in that fight.

              I don't think Kirkland is some bum, jeez. I just think that when he faces a guy with quick hands that will be able to catch him with crisp, precise punches that he doesn't see coming he might not stand up to the punch. Or maybe he will and maybe your guys are right that he's just tight in the 1st. I'm just saying he hasn't shown that to me yet.

              But Molina aint a sharp puncher. He's a gritty guy who punches kind of like angulo, wide and slow, and just outworks people. That's a guy Kirkland should walk through.
              hold that thought..........wait for kirkland vs lara so that i can make a intimidate bet with you.........

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                #67
                Originally posted by americanbot
                hold that thought..........wait for kirkland vs lara so that i can make a intimidate bet with you.........
                didn't a Japanese journney man TKO Kirkland?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                  Yes cause KO% is something you should go by. My goodness. Angulo stops people by wearing them down not by sparking them out.

                  The way his face was contorted from a punch means nothing. My god you are reaching.
                  dude, you said that angulo wasn't a big ko puncher........that means you're referring to ko percentages......did you mean he doesn't have one punch ko power? but you didn't say that?

                  & if thats what you mean who has one punch ko power @ 154

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Gun Fights
                    didn't a Japanese journney man TKO Kirkland?
                    a fat wolfless kirkland..............

                    ishida will look like **** against willams..........

                    mark my words.

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                    • ИATAS
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                      Nah I got Kirkland in that fight.

                      I don't think Kirkland is some bum, jeez. I just think that when he faces a guy with quick hands that will be able to catch him with crisp, precise punches that he doesn't see coming he might not stand up to the punch. Or maybe he will and maybe your guys are right that he's just tight in the 1st. I'm just saying he hasn't shown that to me yet.

                      But Molina aint a sharp puncher. He's a gritty guy who punches kind of like angulo, wide and slow, and just outworks people. That's a guy Kirkland should walk through.
                      I think any talented boxer with fast, precise hands and a good chin can beat kirkland. Don't get me wrong he's not invincible (no one is). Every style of fighting has their kryptonite and kirkland is no exception.

                      Lara is the guy I would worry most about if I were kirkland. But I'd LOVE to see Kirkland vs Cotto & Canelo, very even matches imo.

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