Why is floyd so overrated on these forums?

[mikemurni]

I've been here before dumb***, if you where here long enough you would've known by the way I write what my original screen name was.Here's another fact, you been here long enough and don't know shi t about the forum or boxing in general groupie ,lmao.....

No you haven't..you are a ***** who just decided to join the forum because you were riding the steroid issue... Or its either that you are ****ing alt, so that you can use it to agree to one of your ****** post of your other account..

[THE REED]

Name calling and personal insults will not be tolerated, consider this a warning to all.

NSB isn't the place for it.

[mikemurni]

Come on man give up already..Ur reaching...Ortiz was his toughest opponent and he FOUGHT him like he was a tune up...Ortiz was 24yrs old, 164 lbs, southpaw, speed, power, angles...he was a GREAT tactical brawler, and Floyd is just that amazing man where he walked him down..It was amazing...U know roach said Ortiz used to beat the crap out of Pac in sparring when he weighed 155lbs...far lighter than when Floyd fought him...but u know all of this already...ur set on PRETENDING that u feel one way or another, when u really want to hide the fact that Pac is an Arum hypejob...I know *******s and Floydhaters refuse to admit Floyd is the History in the making...well we been talking for hrs man...I cant go in circles with ya...btw, this arguements reminded me of another bad thing Pac did to boxing...he brought in a bunch of fans to the sport that really overcrowd the sport with there irrationalism, racism, and extreme views..Like Jay said.."U lost One"

Ortiz was also the guy who got KO'd by Maidana, should have lose against Peterson, and the guy who just beat a pampered and overrated paper WW champion.. In other words, he hasn't done enough to share the same ring with Floyd... That was the consensus here before the fight if you take out all the *****s in this forum... And lol on a tactical brawler comment...You mean he is boxer/puncher...

[THE REED]

Nah, that wasn't the consensus.

The consensus was that Floyd would never get in the ring with someone like Ortiz who is capable of bringing that type of pressure with speed and power.

As we see, a draw to Peterson isn't so bad now is it... he had a bad fight against Maidana.. it's also clear to see just how big Ortiz is, and staying at 140 could of definitely hindered his maximum performance.

Berto is still a top 5 welterweight, whether paper champ or not, he could of had no title and he was still a young, prime, fast, undefeated, full fledged welterweight... and Ortiz steam rolled him.

Ortiz showed major strength and conditioning gains moving up to welterweight.

THat was one of the best possible matchups at welterweight that could of been made at the time.

[PAC-BOY]

awww the little Pacquiao fan is mad at the Poll asking who would win and in that Poll Mayweather has a HUGE LEAD lol

So now he is crying about this Forum "OVERRATED MAYWEATHER" hahaha

Sensitive Fans are the WORSE! They can't debate because they don't know anything about Boxing besides PACQUIAO so they get all sensitive and emotional

We dont do polls. Meaningless. I personally didnt chose the poll like many others dont. Its not shocking that you actually think that it means anything. LOL Think about it. lol

[PAC-BOY]

Nah, that wasn't the consensus.

The consensus was that Floyd would never get in the ring with someone like Ortiz who is capable of bringing that type of pressure with speed and power.

As we see, a draw to Peterson isn't so bad now is it... he had a bad fight against Maidana.. it's also clear to see just how big Ortiz is, and staying at 140 could of definitely hindered his maximum performance.

Berto is still a top 5 welterweight, whether paper champ or not, he could of had no title and he was still a young, prime, fast, undefeated, full fledged welterweight... and Ortiz steam rolled him.

Ortiz showed major strength and conditioning gains moving up to welterweight.

THat was one of the best possible matchups at welterweight that could of been made at the time.

i wouldnt say steam rolled him...that was a good good fight. Both fighters imo fought their hearts out.

[MurkaMan]

Ortiz was also the guy who got KO'd by Maidana, should have lose against Peterson, and the guy who just beat a pampered and overrated paper WW champion.. In other words, he hasn't done enough to share the same ring with Floyd... That was the consensus here before the fight if you take out all the *****s in this forum... And lol on a tactical brawler comment...You mean he is boxer/puncher...

Aye Ortiz fought the best...he had some wins and some losses...but what he did to Berto was CRAZYY...His skills was in order man...I loved that fight and he threw all types of combinations from all types of angles and everything...I'd like to see peterson and Madaina try him at ww, but Floyd ruined Ortiz I think..Berto will KO the guy within the first 5 rnds...if he can get past Ortiz's skills...Ortiz has angles, combinations, decent head movement, footspeed...only flaws he has is obvious mental issues, gets wild footwork when he throws his combinations, and he cant adjust to his opponents...but Floyd aint fight him coming off his lost to Madaina which happened yrs ago...Floyd destroyed the guy coming off his greatest performance...Ortiz is a beast at ww, but I think Berto will kill em in the rematch..are u done yet?..LMAO...There's no way u can find ways to discredit Floyd man he's simply the man..I feel bad for the Floydhaters...I love being a fan and being on his side!

[THE REED]

i wouldnt say steam rolled him...that was a good good fight. Both fighters imo fought their hearts out.

I'm a big Berto fan... Ortiz steam rolled him IMO... not Foreman-Frazier steam roll... but was in control throughout the entire fight albeit one round. The last 6 rounds was nothing more than Berto just bying time.

[PrettyBoy22]

That's a ton of excuses right there.. Were those even discussed when the fight was made.. Because I certainly didnt hear those bull**** before the fight.. In fact, the boxing fans were elated those fights were made simply because they were great fights.. But I will give you this

Castillo - people said he lost
Corales - dehydrated
Hernandez - over the hill
Mosley - inactive for 16 months, coming from 2 bad performance before Marg
Gotti - over the hill
Oscar- coming out of 1 year retirement, and had one fight against a human punching bag in Mayorga
Judah-coming of a loss against a bum
Baldomir - a bum
Hatton - was forced to move to higher weight class
JMM- was forced to move to 3 weigtht class, and was cheated on the scales


Its easy to criticize a fighter's resume in hindsight, if you have an agenda. That's why the only way to judge is what people think about the fight when it was made...

And yes, the boxing media who covered the sport in years are biased except you who recently got an account to join because you were so happy to discuss how Floyd svcker punch Ortiz on his way to KO win...

Marquez- Lost 3 times
Mosley- fought him coming off a DRAW WITH SERGIO MORA?
Margarito- Punching bag...had 1 win in 2 years against a bum and was weight drained
Clottey- coming off a defeat
Cotto- coming off a debatable win and weight drained
Hatton- had the worst training camp ever, was over-trained and his head was nowhere near right for the fight
De La Hoya- dead man walking

And your criticising Mayweathers recent bouts? LOL LOL LOL

[FJRod]

Problem with Floyd is people want to underrate him, but also want to overrate. This happens often with popular fighters from the last 20 years. It happens with Roy Jones, Calzhage, Pac, Trinidad, Klits, De La Hoya, Cotto, ect. The problem with Floyd is that he avoid several fights that would have solidified his career. That's why some underrate him some overrate him. In my opinion he is truly one of the most gifted fighter from our era if not the most gifted but due to his own actions has casted a cloud of doubt. Although Pac's opponents were maid to order people can't take away from the fact he fought great opposition that were way bigger than him to me he is the most accomplished of our era hate it or love it. That could have been May no doubt he chose a diff route. He is still way more gifted than Pac. Is funny how things work Tito will be remebered (currently) the greatest Rican fighter by his people but Calderon, and Benitez were way more gifted. If u take away the "FANBOISM" I think we can all agree Floyd is a great fighter who could have done more. If anyone overrates him other than his fan bois is himself...As I recall he stated once he was GOAT. That my friends his not, not even close. Don't take away from him but give what is due to the man regardless if u like his attitude or not the dude is already considered an ALL Time Great.