Lorenzo Fertitta on ESPN fighters ($$ issue)

[fathergll]

Dont care, ESPN can expose all of it and they should if it warrants it.

They can expose it, but they need to investigate themselves.

Why doesn't ESPN do one on Top Rank?

[mrpain81]

That's funny comparing ESPN2 boxing which usually pays a license fee of 20k per show against the supposed fastest growing sport in the world. Why not compare those ****ty MMA shows on Indian reservations that probably pay guys $50 bucks and a six pack of natty lights to the lowest pay in Boxing?

If you want to compare UFC pay with boxing compare it to HBO/Showtime level and PPV level, this is all spin by the UFC which they are great at doing BTW. Smoke and mirrors to distract the public and the fans to how badly they are raping their fighters.

Another thing is some of those four round fighters(Not all of them but it happens) are fighting 6-10 times a year and some young fighters/prospects have an allowance from the promoter or manager. The promoter/manager will pay you lets say $1000 a month as an investment so you won't be starving while you're being built up. The UFC fighters are tied down to the UFC and hardly ever fight more then 3 times a year, plus the whole UFC is set up so that the promoter is 100% in control.

One thing about Floyd whether you like the guy or hate him he's his own boss. He doesn't answer to no one and the promoter works for him. In the UFC you are the slave and if you ain't kissing billionaire ass 24/7 you might get cut, not get any bonus pay or the push needed to get you out of the prelims.

[raf727]

You don't find a little bit of irony that ESPN is doing a money piece on the UFC and they are showing live fights themselves with guys getting paid basically nothing?

Its hilarious that Rafael thinks its ok because its "out of ESPN's hands" since the promoters can freely choose to spend the money how they see it.

Do the under card UFC fighters sell $6,000 worth of tickets and PPV buys? Nope.

the money is not what it is about smh


these fighters are getting national exposure, and alot of times people at the beginning end up fighting for free with how the ticket sales go, thats why people sign to promoters and get a salary when they train

[heat27]

Why doesn't dana compare how much he pays his top guys like brock
to boxers like berto,p.williams and paulie?

All those guys have made bigger pay days than brock
you know that guy brock right?...the biggest draw that company had lol

What a ****ing joke

[Rocky Rode]

I am calling BS on that comment of fighters or a fighter only making $200 for fighting on ESPN. I knew a guy from our gym that made his pro debut in Ft. Worth last year on the Sergio Mora-Bryan Vera card. He was the opening bout of the card and wasnt televised and he was paid $1,500 and it was a 4 round fight.

Wasn't that a Golden Boy card? You'd think shows that are put on by big promoters would pay their fighters more money.

The guys who make $200 a fight are probably signed with small no name promoters who don't have a lot of money. This isn't really surprising, imo.

[loui_ludwig]

You can't just compare boxing to UFC. Remember that UFC is an MMA company. Yes, they are the face of the UFC, but it is better to compare boxing to whole MMA, not just UFC.

As far as those 4 round fights in boxing, its not surprising that boxers get paid that $200 something pay. Maxim magazine had a small profile of a prospect boxer that was making less than 1,000 dollars a fight. That boxer also suffered a setback(lost a fight). Boxing is not just a 4 round fight, it is only for the prospects. If you keep winning, eventually you will fight 12 rounds and earn more.

I read also in interviews of MMA fighters that they were earning $300 a fight when they first started on smaller organizations. With UFC, they are building their own stars or already a star in other organizations(such as the former Pride, Strike Force, WEC).

[fathergll]

[I]That's funny comparing ESPN2 boxing which usually pays a license fee of 20k per show against the supposed fastest growing sport in the world. Why not compare those ****ty MMA shows on Indian reservations that probably pay guys $50 bucks and a six pack of natty lights to the lowest pay in Boxing?

Well because ESPN boxing is the topic at hand

If you want to compare UFC pay with boxing compare it to HBO/Showtime level and PPV level, this is all spin by the UFC which they are great at doing BTW. Smoke and mirrors to distract the public and the fans to how badly they are raping their fighters.

But are they really raping their fighters when the UFC as a promoter has proven time and time again that they are directly responsible for generating a lot of revenue with PPV buys and fight gates?

Case in point. Brock Lesnar's first MMA fight did 35,000 ppv buys. His second was with the UFC and did 600,000 buys.

I would say UFC easily deserves a lion share of the money. If MMA was that popular on a whole then why hasn't there been a fighter been able to generate a lot of money on his own? Why are all the other promotions in the red and now defunked? Why did Pride pull in 40,000 ppv buys in the US for their first live PPV despite having talent like Fedor, Shogun, Henderson, Barnett, Belfort all on the same card? Why was Fedor only able to generate 100,000 PPV buys for Affliction? We all know if the UFC had Fedor in a title fight against Couture or Lesar they would have done great numbers.

Another thing is some of those four round fighters(Not all of them but it happens) are fighting 6-10 times a year and some young fighters/prospects have an allowance from the promoter or manager. The promoter/manager will pay you lets say $1000 a month as an investment so you won't be starving while you're being built up. The UFC fighters are tied down to the UFC and hardly ever fight more then 3 times a year, plus the whole UFC is set up so that the promoter is 100% in control.

At the end of the day you're not making much either way if you're an up and comer. Whether its for the UFC or for some boxing promoter that is giving you allowance of $1000 a month.

One thing about Floyd whether you like the guy or hate him he's his own boss. He doesn't answer to no one and the promoter works for him. In the UFC you are the slave and if you ain't kissing billionaire ass 24/7 you might get cut, not get any bonus pay or the push needed to get you out of the prelims.

Right but Floyd is able to sell and promote any fight event with any promoter. MMA fighters can't do that because the only promotion that currently makes a lot of money is the UFC. That why the UFC is able to "**** their fighters".

[WARQUEZ]

Damage control by the UFC.

Comparing the salaries of the world's number 1 organization that sells millions of PPVs a year to a show that barely anyone watches. The funny part is the fans are actually buying it.

[oc9979]

Damage control by the UFC.

Comparing the salaries of the world's number 1 organization that sells millions of PPVs a year to a show that barely anyone watches. The funny part is the fans are actually buying it.

It is like comparing HBO to ESPN.