James Toney will Save Heavyweight Division!

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  • Bozo_no no
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    #61
    Originally posted by TuPrincipe
    I don't. He can become a paper champ but once he fights the big boys He's as good as done.
    What "Big Boys" are you talking about?

    He's fighting Rahman in the new year, and then only needs to beat Byrd and Brewster.

    That's not that unlikely that he can pull it off...

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    • TuPrincipe
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      #62
      The "big boys" I'm talking about are Rahman, Klitschko bro's (assuming Vitali comes out of retirement, and Brewster).

      Please don't talk about Toney like he is a savour of the HW division. This talk is much too premature at this point.

      He has two good solid wins over Ruiz and Guinn, but if he fights someone who has a substantial height difference over him he will lose indefinetly.

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      • Bozo_no no
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        #63
        Originally posted by TuPrincipe
        The "big boys" I'm talking about are Rahman, Klitschko bro's (assuming Vitali comes out of retirement, and Brewster).

        Please don't talk about Toney like he is a savour of the HW division. This talk is much too premature at this point.

        He has two good solid wins over Ruiz and Guinn, but if he fights someone who has a substantial height difference over him he will lose indefinetly.
        I didn't talk about him like he's the saviour at any point.

        But suggesting it's not possible he beats Rahman is silly.

        That is now set as his next fight.

        Wlad Klitschko could be KO'd at any point in time, and Brewster admittedly doesn't want to fight Toney unless he's forced into it.

        Toney will beat Rahman, and after that he's got two more titles to go after that Byrd and Brewster currently hold.

        It's not a certianty, but it's not as unlikely as you're making it out to be.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
          I didn't talk about him like he's the saviour at any point.

          But suggesting it's not possible he beats Rahman is silly.

          That is now set as his next fight.

          Wlad Klitschko could be KO'd at any point in time, and Brewster admittedly doesn't want to fight Toney unless he's forced into it.

          Toney will beat Rahman, and after that he's got two more titles to go after that Byrd and Brewster currently hold.

          It's not a certianty, but it's not as unlikely as you're making it out to be.
          It's very unlikely that an overweight 5'9'' counterpuncher in Toney can beat a 6'3'' 240 pounder in Rahman, a 6'6'' Wladimir Klitschko, or a 6'8'' Vitali Klitschko.

          Not only is there a substantial height difference, but there is a definte difference in reach and power.

          Your argument on how Wlad can be KO'd at any time is WEAK. He just fought arguably the hardest hitter in the division and climbed off the canvas to secure a hard-fought but unanimous decision.

          You're assumption that Toney (who is a former middleweight) can knock out Wlad is just absurd considering Toney is not known for his punching at HW.

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            #65
            Originally posted by TuPrincipe
            It's very unlikely that an overweight 5'9'' counterpuncher in Toney can beat a 6'3'' 240 pounder in Rahman, a 6'6'' Wladimir Klitschko, or a 6'8'' Vitali Klitschko.

            Not only is there a substantial height difference, but there is a definte difference in reach and power.
            Thats what Ive been saying!! But Rahman is only 6'2, and Im pretty sure that Toney could beat him

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              #66
              Originally posted by TuPrincipe
              It's very unlikely that an overweight 5'9'' counterpuncher in Toney can beat a 6'3'' 240 pounder in Rahman, a 6'6'' Wladimir Klitschko, or a 6'8'' Vitali Klitschko.

              Not only is there a substantial height difference, but there is a definte difference in reach and power.

              Rahman SUCKS.

              He lost to John Ruiz, and old Holyfield.

              As this fight is happening next, how's about we make a bet?

              As for the Klitschkos, Wlad doesn't have a title right now, and is capeable of being KO'd by almost anyone he fights. He's not a potential opponent until he's wearing a strap.

              Vitali is retired, and can't make it through a training camp without injuring himself. He's finished.

              Toney is fighting Rahman next, and after that, he only needs the IBF and WBO titles.

              This is not that unlikely.

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                #67
                Now he will save the UFC Heavyweight division

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