Originally posted by Matty lll
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Do you think Floyd is being sincere or was this just perfect timing?
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Pac sent michael koncz to floyd's gym a month ago only to get a "we got nothing to talk about" response
Despite calling out pac on twitter, floyd has yet to get in contact with top rank to negotiate a fight.
Those two above make it clear as day that floyd is still ducking pac.
Floyd knows very well the fight with pac cant happen on may 5 as he's already got a GBP Mexican lined up for that date - hence his silence on pac's challenge for a late may fight.
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postnah not even. even if u say floyd might have been ducking, there isnt much to show that. floyd went on a one year vacation, which means he wasnt fighting at all. its not the same thing as this blatant attempt that team pac is doing rite now. and lets not even forget who walked away from the first negotiations because of testing only to agree to take the tests later on. seriously, i put the blame on both sides for a long time. but rite now, what team pac is doing is pretty inexcusable. there is no defense for it.
You could make the case that In 2009, after Manny Pacquiao had utterly destroyed Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Miguel Cotto in successive fights, Floyd Mayweather Jr wanted NOTHING to do him Floyd went on an extended vacation and seemingly had "no urge" for this fight.
In 2012, after Manny Pacquiao had shown in his last two fights with Shane Mosley and Juan Manuel Marquez that he doesn't seem to have the same speed, movement, relentlessness and killer instinct anymore, Floyd Mayweather Jr has picked a great time to start wanting the fight.
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Originally posted by Matty lll View PostWhat? I didn't know that. I seen he called him out this week on twitter.
Anyways, I was just saying it is a possibility, which it is. This latest call out on twitter.
No-one is ducking anyone, Team Pacquaio called out Mayweather(sort of) on November 11th and even before that Floyd looked like he was ducking Manny. It just so happens that this time it is Manny who looks bad. Its just his turn so to speak because Mayweather is now winning the public vote.
I don't see it as a possibility since he called him out like I sad a week before Pac-JMM IV. I just think he's putting more pressure on the situation now because he's going to jail in June. Once he got the judge told him he got till' it's when he came out like a fighter and did the call out.
I don't know about Pac calling out Floyd on the 11th. But, anyways before Floyd got sentence. Arum was saying that Pac suffered a cut and he wouldn't be ready to fight in May so they were going to look at June. Once Mayweather got sentence, Arum said he would do a Pac-JMM IV on May 5. Once Floyd the judge gave Floyd up to June, Arum said that Pac will fight June 9 or June 16.
It's blatant who's ducking right now it's shame. Pac walked away from the first negotiations. Floyd lied about there wasn't 2nd negotiations. Now it seems that Pac team doing everything in their power not to get the fight done while Floyd did the call out, got the date and venue reserved. Has said he wants to fight no one but Pac. Making Pac first priority.
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostHmmmm lots of idiots in the world think Pac is a FRAUD , I think Id rather be an idiot than a gullible fool , especially when your backing the loser lol .
You type like you are ten years old in fact you probably are. There's no way you are more than 15 years of age.
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Originally posted by Matty lll View PostWhat about the time Manny said he agreed to drug testing through the WADA(I think it was?) but Floyd said it had to be with some other group. Many called that a duck.
You could make the case that In 2009, after Manny Pacquiao had utterly destroyed Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Miguel Cotto in successive fights, Floyd Mayweather Jr wanted NOTHING to do him Floyd went on an extended vacation and seemingly had "no urge" for this fight.
In 2012, after Manny Pacquiao had shown in his last two fights with Shane Mosley and Juan Manuel Marquez that he doesn't seem to have the same speed, movement, relentlessness and killer instinct anymore, Floyd Mayweather Jr has picked a great time to start wanting the fight.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostNah, it's pretty clear who's ducking who right now.
I don't see it as a possibility since he called him out like I sad a week before Pac-JMM IV. I just think he's putting more pressure on the situation now because he's going to jail in June. Once he got the judge told him he got till' it's when he came out like a fighter and did the call out.
I don't know about Pac calling out Floyd on the 11th. But, anyways before Floyd got sentence. Arum was saying that Pac suffered a cut and he wouldn't be ready to fight in May so they were going to look at June. Once Mayweather got sentence, Arum said he would do a Pac-JMM IV on May 5. Once Floyd the judge gave Floyd up to June, Arum said that Pac will fight June 9 or June 16.
It's blatant who's ducking right now it's shame. Pac walked away from the first negotiations. Floyd lied about there wasn't 2nd negotiations. Now it seems that Pac team doing everything in their power not to get the fight done while Floyd did the call out, got the date and venue reserved. Has said he wants to fight no one but Pac. Making Pac first priority.
All I'm saying his that it's just his 'turn' to look bad. Previously it was Team Floyd who was doing the ducking and labeled the cheat. What I meant by neither Floyd or Pacquaio is ducking is that I don't believe either of them are. I think both of them want the fight but it's all the BS politics of Arum(this time) that is stopping the fight.
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Originally posted by Matty lll View PostWhat about the time Manny said he agreed to drug testing through the WADA(I think it was?) but Floyd said it had to be with some other group. Many called that a duck.
You could make the case that In 2009, after Manny Pacquiao had utterly destroyed Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Miguel Cotto in successive fights, Floyd Mayweather Jr wanted NOTHING to do him Floyd went on an extended vacation and seemingly had "no urge" for this fight.
In 2012, after Manny Pacquiao had shown in his last two fights with Shane Mosley and Juan Manuel Marquez that he doesn't seem to have the same speed, movement, relentlessness and killer instinct anymore, Floyd Mayweather Jr has picked a great time to start wanting the fight.
and once again, u dont know wat u are talking about. floyd went on vacation before manny moved up to 147. manny had his run, floyd came back and fought marquez about the same time manny fought cotto and immediately begun negotiating a pacquaio fight. what happened. first roach was all cool with the drug testing, both sides had their demands. howeverm all of a sudden team pac didnt want the drug testing. after pointless negotiations and even some movement on the testing, arum and pac moved on to clottey. yes thats right, it was pac who moved on not floyd. there u go, plz, once again, u gotta kno what ur talking about if ur gonna come with this stuff on this site. or else ur gonna get exposed.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostUSADA does the testing here in the U.S. Arum said that USADA was in Floyd pocket and couldn't be trusted that WADA had to do it. Unbeknownst to him, I think, USADA is WADA based in USA.
but okay that's a bad point.
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postfloyd never said it had to be with usada. the whole controversy was cause by arum and arum alone. floyd never even commented on it. this is what happens when u get ur news from boxing forums. follow the articles kid. dont assume.
and once again, u dont know wat u are talking about. floyd went on vacation before manny moved up to 147. manny had his run, floyd came back and fought marquez and immediately begun negotiating a pacquaio fight. what happened. first roach was all cool with the drug testing, both sides had their demands. howeverm all of a sudden team pac didnt want the drug testing. after pointless negotiations and even some movement on the testing, arum and pac moved on to clottey. yes thats right, it was pac who moved on not floyd. there u go, plz, once again, u gotta kno what ur talking about if ur gonna come with this stuff on this site. or else ur gonna get exposed.
Yeah I just looked it up, I was wrong about that but cut me some slack, I wasn't really following boxing then. Just going by what I hear on other forums etc.
If there is one thing that I don't know much about it is the past negotiations but when I looked stuff up thats what I found
I do read articles mate, Just not hear and I thought I remembered something about that. I guess not.
And don't call me kidLast edited by Matty lll; 01-14-2012, 05:37 AM.
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