'World' Champion??

[Kiwi CC]

How can anyone call themselves a 'World Champion' if they hold less than ALL of the major alphabet belts on offer? I get tired of hearing about the WBA 'World' Heavyweight Champion, the WBC 'World' Heavyweight Champion etc. No wonder people with only a passing interest in boxing get confused! It certainly does nothing for the credibility of the sport.
Why don't we refer to the WBA Heavyweight Titleholder, the WBC Heavyweight Titleholder etc and ONLY refer to a World Heavyweight Champion when they have earned the right to be called that?

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

That's why they have Ring Magazine. Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy. We all know boxing's ABC organizations are ****, and we've been over that a million times.

Until it's fixed, get the Ring.

[Kiwi CC]

I do get The Ring. In fact, it's the only one I get. The fact is, we don't have a World Heavyweight Champ at the moment. It's a sad situation.

[TheEvilSaint]

no belts: ur either a contender, a bum, or an uncrowned champion.
1 belt: ur a world champion.
2 or 3 belts: ur a unified champion.
all 4 belts: ur THE undisputed champion.

if u dont have any of the 4 belts, ur not a world champion, regardless of any arguements to the contrary.

if you have 1, 2, or 3 of the belts, u CANNOT say that u are the undisputed champion. you CANNOT allow any1 the right to say that they are A or THE champion at the same time as you call urself the undisputed champ. dont give any1 the time of day to say otherwise.

only when you have the WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO titles can you consider yourself the undisputed champion.

i can understand and respect all this "the belts dont matter" arguement, but it pains me to aknowledge that boxing is no longer a sport, its a business and in this business, the promoters, the managers, the journalists, the analysts, the experts, the magazines, and the fans all must recognize the belts.

the belts have become a prison that is impossible to escape. to be a world champ or THE champ, you have to win the belts. not only are the belts part of the business, but they are part of tradition.

[Kiwi CC]

Good point about the business side of it and the fact that the belts are here to stay. I might change my tune when we finally get an undisputed heavyweight champion. The current champs carry no mana as far as I'm concerned. Remember when Tyson, Holmes and Ali etc ducked NO challenger, no matter how dangerous they were? These days they just seem to want to duck each other while still claiming to be the champ.

[JUYJUY]

That's why they have Ring Magazine. Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy. We all know boxing's ABC organizations are ****, and we've been over that a million times.

Until it's fixed, get the Ring.

Who gives a **** about The Ring's opinion? I mean, it's only an opinion from an American publication.

Judge for yourself, that's the conclusion I've come to.

[TheEvilSaint]

Who gives a **** about The Ring's opinion? I mean, it's only an opinion from an American publication.

Judge for yourself, that's the conclusion I've come to.

they've been around longer than you. they know more than you. they've seen more than you. they've been around the sport a lot longer than you have. maybe not the actual writers, but the magazine and its standards have.

having said that, doesnt that give you some kinda clue like maybe they know more about boxing than you do?

[JUYJUY]

they've been around longer than you. they know more than you. they've seen more than you. they've been around the sport a lot longer than you have. maybe not the actual writers, but the magazine and its standards have.

having said that, doesnt that give you some kinda clue like maybe they know more about boxing than you do?

The Ring is corrupted, always has been. Nat Fleischer was a diabolical bastard - if you were one of his personal favourites then he made you over-rated, but if you were somebody he didn't personally admire then he made you under-rated.. it didn't matter how good you were.

[TheEvilSaint]

The Ring is corrupted, always has been. Nat Fleischer was a diabolical bastard - if you were one of his personal favourites then he made you over-rated, but if you were somebody he didn't personally admire then he made you under-rated.. it didn't matter how good you were.

ur just being a sore loser.

[JUYJUY]

ur just being a sore loser.

KO Mag was a much better read than The Ring.