Floyd Mayweather: "I Only Want One Person, Pacquiao...Why Is He Duckin' And Dodgin'

[WESS]

How has Alvarez and Cotto done more than Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley?

Don't even answer cuz' I don't care. If you say they have done more than they have done more. I honestly don't care.

Look Pac has a horrible fan base. But, Floyd fan base are just as lame. Because, no matter who Floyd fights or the opponent his fans will find a way to justify it. Looking at your post for example. So I don't care.

You're going to pay for it, good for you. I'm not, I'm going to stream it. And, we just leave it at that.

At the time that Pac fought them. Not over their entire career. Alvarez is still green, but a guy that's winning and is a champ. Something Pac's selections where not. Same with Cotto, he is at least winning and is a champ. Something Pac's selections where not.

I'm not justifying anything. Just stating the obvious. If Pac stays ducking and with Martinez fighting in March (at MW) who is left? That was all, I was not justifying anything.

[4Corners]

[QUOTE=Chopper417;11663424]

I agree. But, Floyd-Cotto on PPV is a joke. You don't get a pass for that. Might as well would have went to jail. And, try Martinez in the fall or just retire. Honestly if these are the caliber of opponents that Floyd is going to fight the likes of Canelo and Cotto because Pac is ducking him. Then he might as well retire.


So you would rather Floyd not fight at all than fight Cotto? Gotta disagree with u there.

I agree. I have said from day one when talking Pacquiao/Mayweather vs. Martinez, neither guy should feel obligated to fight Sergio. Yes, it would enhance both fighters legacies big time if they beat him at 154, but Sergio is STILL a solid Middleweight. He weighs in at 158-160 and comes in anywhere from 165-170 on fight nights. Manny weighs in usually anywhere from 143-147 now and comes in around 145-148 on fight nights. Floyd usually weighs in around 146-147 or 150 against Oscar, and has come in no higher than 150 on any fight night. Neither guy should feel any obligation to fight Sergio.

If that's the case, than Nonito Donaire should feel an obligation to fight Yuriorkis Gamboa and Adrien Broner RIGHT NOW. Or Sergio should feel an obligation to fight Hopkins, Dawson, Ward, etc. It's just simply not the case. I don't get how Sergio can claim Floyd and Manny, both rather small Welterweights, are ducking him, when he refuses to fight Andre Ward, Lucian Bute, Bernard Hopkins, Chad Dawson, etc. It's crazy, and that's the main reason I don't care for Sergio Martinez too much. If he can't get the big payday at 154 against Floyd, Manny, or Cotto, and if Chavez still refuses to fight him, than clean out the Middleweight division this year and move up to 168, where he could easily fight. Fight people like Macklin (which he is), Lee, Quillin, Pirog, and clean out 160. Than go north to 168 and fight people like Ward, Bute, Froch, Dirrell bro's, etc. That would enhance Sergio's legacy, more so than calling out 147 lb fighters while he's at 160 lbs. Right now, Sergio will go down as a great Middleweight fighter, who really came on in his late career, and a guy that called out Welterweights non-stop.

Mayweather vs. Cotto at 154 lbs is a legit fight. It's funny that a ton of Pac fans now claim that Cotto is a crap fight, even though he's the EXACT SAME guy he was in 09' when Pac fought him, only weighing a solid 153-154, not 145 at a CW. Mayweather-Cotto at 154 is a B+ fight, same goes for Manny. If the fight was at 150, it's a C+ fight. If it's at 147, it's a C fight.

Mayweather vs. Alvarez at 154 is a C+/B- fight. I have said that since the day Alvarez called out Floyd in his post fight interview. Alvarez is good, but he hasn't earned a Mayweather fight. If he'd beaten Angulo or Martirosyan last year, along with Rhodes and Cintron, than I'd say it's a solid B/B+ fight and he'd have earned it. If he beats Kirkland, Cotto, or Lara this year, than I'd say it becomes an A- fight, really good. That's my only beef with Floyd-Canelo, the fact that Alvarez hasn't earned a Floyd fight yet.

[-Kev-]

The problem is no matter WHO Floyd fights people will bash it. Hell they will bash the Pac fight (after the fact). Outside of Martinez (who's fighting Macklin in March for the MW WBC Diamond belt), Cotto is the only real option, challenge-wise. Outside of Pac, Alvarez will sell more than any of them. Legacy wise though, Cotto does more than any of them (outside of Pac).

At the end of the day, Mayweather vs Alvarez >>> Pac vs Clottey/Margarito/Mosley. Mayweather vs Cotto >>> Pac vs Clottey/Margarito/Mosley

Mayweather vs either Alvarez or Cotto sells more than anyone Pac gets in the ring with outside of Floyd. The problem is, Bob wants to wait until its Pac's last fight (and Floyd being old).

Personally I would pay to see Mayweather vs Martinez/Cotto/Alvarez. Nobody else. All are champions in their respected weight class. Only viable opponent at WW is Pac and well, everyone knows Pac is no man enough to make the fight happen. Never was, or else we would have seen this fight back in 2009.

I disagree with Cotto being the best challenge wise after Martinez.

Erislandy Lara is the second best challenge after Martinez. I will then put Paul Williams as the third best challenge stylistically. And all three of those guys, Martinez, Lara, and Williams, would all beat Cotto at 154, and they would beat the catchweight king fraud Manny Pacquiao.

[Evilution KO]

Im not a fan of neither fighter but I must say the excuses coming out of that Pacquiao camp as just some WEAK ASS excuses. When they knew Floyd was going to be locked up you heard nothing about no cut, stadium not being built in time yada yada yada... now that Floyd is punking them they're coming out with a bunch of excuses.

I do not know how Pacquiao fans can defend this... really come on this is just pathetic.

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At the time that Pac fought them. Not over their entire career. Alvarez is still green, but a guy that's winning and is a champ. Something Pac's selections where not. Same with Cotto, he is at least winning and is a champ. Something Pac's selections where not.

I'm not justifying anything. Just stating the obvious. If Pac stays ducking and with Martinez fighting in March (at MW) who is left? That was all, I was not justifying anything.

I see the mistake that Pac opponents made was not fight more shot to pieces fighters and journeymen types before fighting Pac.

You're right, I'm wrong, end of.

[V.WEBB]

I liked him when he was coming up. After he beat Powell(I think) I thought he was a top prospect. I think he was with Don King which kind of messed him up and slowed him down. Since he wasn't as active.

I also think he use to get trained by Kevin if I'm not mistaken before making a move to Vegas.

Yep, he beat Powell on a Wednesday night if I'm not mistaken. I remember posting a thread as soon as he happened. And yes, I hated that Cory and Devon were signed with King, really did. Kevin didn't train Latimore. Kevin's main two guys have always been Cory and Devon. He's been with Devon since he was like 7 or so. Then he and Cory fell out a few years back, and all that.

[WESS]

I disagree with Cotto being the best challenge wise after Martinez.

Erislandy Lara is the second best challenge after Martinez. I will then put Paul Williams as the third best challenge stylistically. And all three of those guys, Martinez, Lara, and Williams, would all beat Cotto at 154, and they would beat the catchweight king fraud Manny Pacquiao.

Floyd wouldn't get any credit fighting Lara and it wouldn't do anything to his legacy that Cotto wouldn't do. Same with PWill. You may be right "challenge" wise which is due to their size.

However Floyd would get a Pac pay day by fighting those guys and I'm sure he wouldn't agree to such a low cut do to the bad numbers it would do. I'd still pay to see those fights as well.

[PAC-BOY]

lool


this ****** bakla ******* will stop at no lengths to defend his idol ducking the mayweather



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Im not a fan of neither fighter but I must say the excuses coming out of that Pacquiao camp as just some WEAK ASS excuses. When they knew Floyd was going to be locked up you heard nothing about no cut, stadium not being built in time yada yada yada... now that Floyd is punking them they're coming out with a bunch of excuses.

I do not know how Pacquiao fans can defend this... really come on this is just pathetic.

My point exactly.....

[PAC-BOY]

It seems there are a lot of things you cant believe at this point. Give up bro the truth is already out there and most people already jumped ship. Im actually starting to see less and less ******* comments over the internet since Pacquiao and Bob Arum has been exposed.

been exposed to what ....