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Eastman vs Hopkins...Whats your pick and why?
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Originally posted by spinksjinxIm going with Eastman, I am afraid that Bernard wont make it to his 20 defense, this fight has been a long time coming and I think Eastman will dig down deep and surprise us all. Plus their is a few noteworthy factors as to why I believe this....Sure it may be superstitious to say the least but it has been proven to be true time and time again.
Call me crazy but this curse has proven true over and over again.
My second superstitious reasoning is that Bernard always trains on the sunny beach in Miami and this time around he opted to train in California instead...De La Hoya opted to train in Florida for the sturm fight and look what happened. I think this is going to cause problems for Bernard, because by training in California it may mean he is worrying to much about the business aspect of his new business venture and while Eastman (not to be taken lightly) has no stress and pressure on him all the attention is on Bernard (for once) and Eastman has had the tools to do it and I wont be surprised for an upset.
Call me crazy but im going with Eastman over a 12 round Unanimous Decision!
Hopkins by wicked ass whoopin.
He'll kick Eastman's ass for a while then Eastman will just get on his bike.
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Originally posted by neils7147933Hopkins is my pick.
Explain why - ok, um, because he's fighting Howard Eastman.
No disrespect but wasnt Roy just fighting Glen Johnson?
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Anyone who thinks this fight could even possibly look like Johnson/Jones is mistaken.
1.) Hopkins is far too hungry to set the record for defenses. He still has the desire to look impressive.
2.) Hopkins is much tougher than Jones is or was. Jones was never really beat up because of his sheer quickness and ability to first, beat his opponent to the punch and second, get out of harms way. He's too old and slow to do that now so he gets hit too much now and everyone gets to see just what his chin is made of. Bernard can take much more heat than Jones.
3.) Hopkins stays in great shape. Eastman is JUST ordinary enough so that Hopkins won't feel discomfort from Eastmans workrate and punching power. Expect Hopkins to shut down anything Eastman initially looks forward to doing.
Eastman is a tough customer but doesn't have what it takes to beat Hopkins. Eastman is no spring chicken himself. Hopkins wins by comfortable decision or (doubtful) late stoppage.
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Originally posted by oldgringoAnyone who thinks this fight could even possibly look like Johnson/Jones is mistaken.
1.) Hopkins is far too hungry to set the record for defenses. He still has the desire to look impressive.
2.) Hopkins is much tougher than Jones is or was. Jones was never really beat up because of his sheer quickness and ability to first, beat his opponent to the punch and second, get out of harms way. He's too old and slow to do that now so he gets hit too much now and everyone gets to see just what his chin is made of. Bernard can take much more heat than Jones.
3.) Hopkins stays in great shape. Eastman is JUST ordinary enough so that Hopkins won't feel discomfort from Eastmans workrate and punching power. Expect Hopkins to shut down anything Eastman initially looks forward to doing.
Eastman is a tough customer but doesn't have what it takes to beat Hopkins. Eastman is no spring chicken himself. Hopkins wins by comfortable decision or (doubtful) late stoppage.
Since when was Glen nor Tarver anything special? They werent until KO'ing Jones...Everyone thrashed tarver and johnson prior to the jones fights.
At this point and time I do believe Hopkins is more hungry than Jones but Hopkins is all about the money now and has stated time in and time out, Also Roy has always been one to say in great shape I dont remember a time when Jones was out of shape personally.
How can you say Eastman is just an ordinary fighter when just a year ago their was ramblings that hopkins was avoiding eastman and blah blah blah....Id hate to compare it but nothing was special about Johnson either.
I had picked Jones to whip the living hell out of Tarver and Johnson on pure skill.
I realize and totally agree Hopkins has the tools to dominate Eastman and I know it may be ridiculous but the EA curse will strike in....Has it ever failed (not just in boxing in all ea games) Hopkins wants his legacy to be great sooooo bad and is dying to make that 20th victorious defense so why not take it all away from him at this glim moment....
My pick would be Bernard no doubt, but superstition has struck more than once.
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Originally posted by spinksjinxSince when was Glen nor Tarver anything special? They werent until KO'ing Jones...Everyone thrashed tarver and johnson prior to the jones fights.
At this point and time I do believe Hopkins is more hungry than Jones but Hopkins is all about the money now and has stated time in and time out, Also Roy has always been one to say in great shape I dont remember a time when Jones was out of shape personally.
How can you say Eastman is just an ordinary fighter when just a year ago their was ramblings that hopkins was avoiding eastman and blah blah blah....Id hate to compare it but nothing was special about Johnson either.
I had picked Jones to whip the living hell out of Tarver and Johnson on pure skill.
I realize and totally agree Hopkins has the tools to dominate Eastman and I know it may be ridiculous but the EA curse will strike in....Has it ever failed (not just in boxing in all ea games) Hopkins wants his legacy to be great sooooo bad and is dying to make that 20th victorious defense so why not take it all away from him at this glim moment....
My pick would be Bernard no doubt, but superstition has struck more than once.
Spinks, I don't understand what you are talking about when mentioning that Johnson and Tarver wreen't special until beating Jones. I never said they were, and I personally don't think either of them are anything special after beating him either (although Tarver has good skills and size).
I never said Roy comes into fights out of shape...I just said that Hopkins is always in great shape and Roy had no desire to lay it on the line in his last two fights.
I also said that Eastman is JUST ORDINARY ENOUGH! You and I both know he's no standout talent or extremely gifted workhorse. He's not ordinary by normal standards, but in comparison to Hop he is.
If you are specifically speaking about the EA curse, then hey...you are right...the EA curse is a hell of an extraoridnary thing. Culpepper, Faulk, Vick, Carter, Jones, even Melo now, have all been stricken by it. But all of those athletes were FINESSE athletes (anyway you look at it I'm right here). None of those guys are real tough guys or ****ers...which Hop may just be the definition of. Look for any sort of curse to be broken here...the gringo is predicting it.
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hopkins will do what he did to tito and dlh to eastman
he will start off slow...give eastman some confidence (which eastman will see has a chance to ko hopkins)...then after a few rounds hopkins will school and own eastman ,finally ko'ing
Hopkins 9-10round ko/tko
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Trust me eastman is not going to lose by UD
WHY?...well because eastman not ****** and if he see's he's lossing by 12th round he will go in there looking to ko hopkins and will get ko'ed in the process when he gets over confident or desperate
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