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  • PAC-BOY
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    #261
    Originally posted by WESS
    Lets hope you're right this time... and Pac actually becomes his own man and tells Bob what to do and not the other way around.
    I really dont think it matters at this point. Floyd and manny will fight another fight...and prepare for a hopefully showdown. Manny could call his shot. Like any other fighter. Arum advises. Manny will agree or disagree. He is his own man not a slave to Arum. We can blame Arum for his BUSINESS decisions all day long. But when it comes down to it. Manny is smart enough to make his own decisions. Its Arums job not Mannys to set up and promote. Arum wants Money Pacquiao wants Money. Floyd wants money GB wants money....its gonna happen.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #262
      Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII
      Sir, Wess is just always angry at Pac. Plain and simple. He looks at things from only ONE point of view. He NEVER finds any faults in Floyd. Thats why so many disagree with him. Me personally...ill rip whoever when they need to be ripped.
      Wess' lifelong history with Pac is irrelevant. As it stands on this issue, Pac is to blame, as much as it pains some people to admit.

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      • WESS
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        #263
        Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII
        Sir, Wess is just always angry at Pac. Plain and simple. He looks at things from only ONE point of view. He NEVER finds any faults in Floyd. Thats why so many disagree with him. Me personally...ill rip whoever when they need to be ripped.
        Angry at Pac? Not quit. Angry at Bob Arum, yes. Like I have said for years, Bob is the one who makes or breaks the fight. Only delusional *******ed fanboys disagree with that.

        I picked apart Floyd when he "decided" to fight JMM.

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        • S IP U IR S xII
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          #264
          Originally posted by WESS
          Angry at Pac? Not quit. Angry at Bob Arum, yes. Like I have said for years, Bob is the one who makes or breaks the fight. Only delusional *******ed fanboys disagree with that.

          I picked apart Floyd when he "decided" to fight JMM.
          Fair enough. Yes many will agree that Arum is a HUGE roadblock, but at the same time, many still blame Floyd and his team for his public slander and guilty till innocent with drug usage, which caused the first negotiations to fall through due to both sides wanting to have not cave on their stance. Its not been a one sided "your fault" ordeal by far.

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            #265
            Originally posted by PAC-BOY
            I really dont think it matters at this point. Floyd and manny will fight another fight...and prepare for a hopefully showdown. Manny could call his shot. Like any other fighter. Arum advises. Manny will agree or disagree. He is his own man not a slave to Arum. We can blame Arum for his BUSINESS decisions all day long. But when it comes down to it. Manny is smart enough to make his own decisions. Its Arums job not Mannys to set up and promote. Arum wants Money Pacquiao wants Money. Floyd wants money GB wants money....its gonna happen.
            It does matter, because Pac can make it very clear who he wants yet he allows Bob to dictate who it will be. As for money, like everyone has been saying, they can make a ton of it without fighting each other. Some say he does not even need Floyd etc etc etc...

            The both need each other and Mayweather has called out a date and venue (minus the countdown clock) just as Bob did last year. Problem is, Bob says Pac is not ready for a fighter like Mayweather in May. Bob will want Mayweather after he gets out of jail in hopes of him being rusty. Just has Bob wanted Floyd to stay retired after he destroyed Hatton. Bob's not ****** and knows Pac can't beat Mayweather.

            When Bob is ready, he will make it. Problem is, he's not done milking Pac yet.

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              #266
              Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII
              Fair enough. Yes many will agree that Arum is a HUGE roadblock, but at the same time, many still blame Floyd and his team for his public slander and guilty till innocent with drug usage, which caused the first negotiations to fall through due to both sides wanting to have not cave on their stance.
              If his slander were the issue there would have been no negotiations to begin with. So that's false.

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                #267
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                If his slander were the issue there would have been no negotiations to begin with. So that's false.
                All this blew up times ten after Floyd deciding 40 fights later there might be a problem with drugs in sports. Lets not pretend this was a one way street

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                  #268
                  Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII
                  Fair enough. Yes many will agree that Arum is a HUGE roadblock, but at the same time, many still blame Floyd and his team for his public slander and guilty till innocent with drug usage, which caused the first negotiations to fall through due to both sides wanting to have not cave on their stance. Its not been a one sided "your fault" ordeal by far.
                  That was never a big issue until team Pac made it a big issue. It's not like Mayweather was the first person to demand blood testing. Team Pac made it sound like it was some new process and that giving blood was some bizarre practice in sports. What was bizarre was Team Pac's excuses.

                  Look at the situation now, a BS cut where Pac can't even spar until April, a BS stadium that needs to be built for Mayweather. That has nothing to do with drugs and yet the fight is not going down because Bob has all the excuses in the world.

                  Bob will ALWAYS find a reason to get Pac in the ring with someone other than Mayweather until he is good ready to cash out.

                  I have said this for years now and you can't have the picture painted any more clearer.

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                    #269
                    Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII
                    All this blew up times ten after Floyd deciding 40 fights later there might be a problem with drugs in sports.
                    Ok, let me repeat myself one more time (and only one more time). If slander was the issue, there would have been no negotiation to begin with. So that's false. Pretending otherwise is "crazy and irrational."

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                      #270
                      the sad part is that pac was actually 100% willing to petition the nsac to carry out exactly what floyd wanted, but floyd still said no


                      that, and

                      hes already got an opponent lined up 2 hours after his prison term was delayed



                      tells me all i need to know

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