Comments Thread For: Schaefer: Who is Bob Arum Fooling? He is Full of ****!

[LeadUppercut]

Manny only needs time for the cut to heal if he fights Floyd. If he fights JMM, the cut will be just fine by May. Get real, dude.

Manny fought in November, so the cut should be fully healed by now and he could start training now. Even if the cut is not fully healed, he can start running and getting in to shape can't he? Or does the cut run all the way down to his feet?

The only cut that Manny needs to worry about is the one between his legs.

[White_Knight]

The only cut that Manny needs to worry about is the one between his legs.

The cut excuse just doesn't work. Vitali was ready to go five and a half months after the cuts he recieved against Lewis, which are by far the worst I've seen. More time will has passed between Pac's last fight and May 5th.

The cut excuse has been proven nonsense by Arum himself anyway. He said he would be more willing to fight on May 5th if the opponent is Marquez. Does a wound's healing capacity depend on who your next opponent is? Because if it does, someone forgot to inform the medical community.

Maybe they could trick the wound into thinking they are fighting Marquez and then when it heals, fight Mayweather.

[sugersean15]

The only cut that Manny needs to worry about is the one between his legs.

lmfao............

[El_Purepecha]

The only cut that Manny needs to worry about is the one between his legs.

LOL. Good one bro.

[Carpe Diem]

It's long past time to put a stop to all the unbalanced speculation about Pacquiao, and his cut, and Arum's supposed prevention of the Mayweather fight etc. Also the foolish comparison with Andre Ward's fight. I hope that all the boxing crazies see this and accept it (a faint hope I know)

Briefly, Pacquiao's cut was 1.5" long, deep to the bone, on the fleshy part of the eyebrow, needing 3 layer stitching of 8, 8, and 12 stitches. Recovery time is mainly depending on his body's reaction.

Ward's cut was a smaller, surface cut, not deep, but serious enough, took 7 stitches, recovery time also depending on his body's reaction. They both would need to be healed properly long enough before their fights so that they can train without aggravating the injuries.

Pacquiao's cut is on a very different level of seriousness to Ward's.

What do you have to say about this?



January 5th, 2012:


http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ons-next-fight

"I'm not married to May 5, so Manny could fight on another date in May," Arum said. "If Manny's opponent is Marquez, I'd be much more married to the date."

The reason is because Marquez is from Mexico and May 5 is the Mexican holiday of Cinco de Mayo, traditionally a day when major bouts involving Mexican fighters are held.

January 6, 2012:


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spor...le+Feedfetcher

Additionally, Arum said Pacquiao is still healing from a deep cut over one of his eyes that he sustained in the Marquez fight.

"I don't know that he's on schedule to start sparring until the beginning of April," Arum said. "That's one of the things we'll discuss. If it is early April, we'll have to have the fight in late May."

If this isn't a clear duck, then i don't know what is.

[Carpe Diem]

I've actually seen nothing from Pacquiao or Arum which says that Pacquiao was ready to fight again in May, especially at the beginning of May. I don't see how he could time his body's response so finely. I've seen all about Mayweather's "booking' of the MGM Grand and his accomplice saying "the little fella". As ambiguous as is possible to be. Not a single definite statement on anything. And entirely possible that he'd announce next week that he never said any such thing. And I've seen all the crazies' loud announcements that he'd said this, or said that or............ But they never seem to understand that "words" actually mean things to some people, and they scatter around all kinds of rumours as statements of facts that they can't possibly know anything about.

If Mayweather was really serious in wanting to fight Pacquiao, he would first ask him if he wanted to fight, then ask if May 5th suited, and THEN....get down to the work of negotiating the contract. He's need a good promoter to do this for him as he can't do it himself. (As a side issue, he doesn't even have a licence to box in Nevada right now and he's never had a promoter's licence..to date. And, if he had, he'd still have to hire an expert to do the actual promoting, since he doesn't know how.) And this would have to be done through Top Rank anyway.

I personally do not believe that Mayweather is/was serious, as every one of his actions show he wasn't. His frantic antics in recent years have been getting more and more uncontrolled, ending (at the moment) in a gaol sentence.

And Pacquiao's cut, no matter how you want to assume it, was a very serious one, and would require several months of trouble free heaing BEFORE he began training again. You can read about it on the internet. It's a legitimate boxing injury, suffered during a bout, not his fault, and it needs to properly recover. A defeat for Pacquiao, (perhaps due to his cut re-opening) was have far more serious consequences to his image as a multi-corporational global icon, than would a defeat for Mayweather which effect would be local, regardless of how his fan(atical)s regard him. Future hundreds of millions in earnings depend on Pacquiao keeping up his image as an all conquering "little man". He's not just a fighter....Corporations worth tens of billions have a vested interest in him.

Hard core fans don't either care or know about that, but he has a long term goal which requires oodles of money, and he's not going to put that in jeopardy if he can help it. Arum has done a wonderful job with and for him, and he can be proud of it, regardless of the irrational hatred heaped on him, about which he either knows or cares little.

According to Arum, the cut would magically heal for a May 5th fight against Marquez.

January 5, 2012:


http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ons-next-fight

"I'm not married to May 5, so Manny could fight on another date in May," Arum said. "If Manny's opponent is Marquez, I'd be much more married to the date."

The reason is because Marquez is from Mexico and May 5 is the Mexican holiday of Cinco de Mayo, traditionally a day when major bouts involving Mexican fighters are held.

[Ringlife]

I think the fight is not going to happen and it's time to move on.

[Section8Studios]

he is fooling SOME OF Pacquiao Fans which is not really that hard lol

Arum don't want his Cash Cow to get exposed and picked apart so he is trying to make all the money he can off of him before "FEEDING HIM TO MAYWEATHER"...if Arum knew Manny could beat Mayweather, he would be jumping to make that fight and would be looking forward to make even MORE MONEY after "DEFEATING MAYWEATHER" but he knows the EXACT OPPOSITE WOULD HAPPEN

Mayweather would pick him apart and expose all of his flaws and weakness and after that fight Manny will have NO VALUE and his PPV Numbers will go WAY DOWN!

I Agree...........

[tatangb45]

What do you have to say about this?



January 5th, 2012:


http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ons-next-fight





January 6, 2012:


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spor...le+Feedfetcher






If this isn't a clear duck, then i don't know what is.

Did you actually understand the article?

[littlemac]

"The fact is, he doesn't want to do the fight. Look what happened. When Pacquiao fought his last fight, we said Mayweather was going to fight on May 5, and Arum said pacquiao wasn't going to be available, it would have to be in June.
Then, when it looked like Mayweather wasn't going to be available in May, suddenly, Pacquiao was going to fight in May. And now, suddenly, Mayweather is going to fight in May, guess what? Pacquiao isn't available until June." -Richard Schaefer


Seems like its happening all over again. Floyd calls Pac out on a date and venue and all of a sudden Pac and Arum who were demanding the fight no longer want it because fighting in May is now disrespectful to Mexicans.