The Brother's vs Holy.... who beats him up

[jimmy1569]

a 25 yr old Holyfield and a 50 yr old Holyfield are one and the same? Replay that statement in your mind. You can't be that ******.

Did YOU EVEN READ the entire post or are you just trying to be a smart A$$? It'S the same person & I stated why.. Putting labels on people & differing versions of them ONLY limits the labeler. Ali is turning 70 or close to it.. he's obviously not the same as he used to be.. but it's still him & ONLY him.. accept the version of him without criticizing or passing judgement on him. Holyfield is 50 but is still active.. still keeps himself in optimal physical fighting shape... ALL you MORONS DO IS complain about fighters the brothers are fighting that aren't in shape. Holyfield is in shape.. has an even bigger pedigree than both bros & has FOUGHT every style.. size & strength of fighter you can CONJURE up... yet he's going to get killed by the brothers?


Now where's the logic in that.. where's the proof that ANY fighter is capable of hurting Holyfield to the extent you guys think?. How is Holyfield the same as any other fighter when we know he has a ticking heart that is unprecedented.. is the most physcially fit 40 yr old.. let alone 50 yr old fighter in boxing history.. keep talking out of all your A$$$es & Keep on disrespecting a fighter who gave us some of the best fights of the last half century.

[Boxing Bob]

jimmy, Holyfield is my all time favorite fighter (with Hagler), but he hasn't beaten an in their prime good fighter since June of 2002 (Rahman), and since then he got kod by a fat, out of shape Toney, imagine what one of the brother would do! This is your exact statement "a 50 yr old Holy and a 25 yr old Holy is one & the same... its the same fighter. Again replay that statement in your mind. You have to be smarter than that. One of us loves and respects Evander and it sure as hell isn't you.

[jimmy1569]

jimmy, Holyfield is my all time favorite fighter (with Hagler), but he hasn't beaten an in their prime good fighter since June of 2002 (Rahman), and since then he got kod by a fat, out of shape Toney, imagine what one of the brother would do! This is your exact statement "a 50 yr old Holy and a 25 yr old Holy is one & the same... its the same fighter. Again replay that statement in your mind. You have to be smarter than that. One of us loves and respects Evander and it sure as hell isn't you.

One of us loves and respects Evander and it sure as hell isn't you.[/QUOTE]
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It sure as hell ain't you either.

The kind of respect you show Evander is ONLY with provisions when the going is good... you're a bandwagoner.. son... you think you respect Holyfield but you really don't. If you really respected him.. you wouldn't be making disrespectful comments about his boxing career now as it pertains to him being active.. Has anyone since that Toney fight even hurt Holyfield??? How many fights as he had since then.. how many fights has he had since his license was reinstated? Wouldn't he have been killed by now.. wasn't Tyson going to kill him as well.

The ONLY fights he's lost since reinstatement were back to back title fights to Ibragimov & Valuev & he had Sultan running throughout there fight & got robbed in Germany vs Valuev... let's all pretend that he didn't deserve that WBA bELT because of the stiff he was fighting.. same belt Haye used for leverage in negotiations with the brothers. Styles make fights.. Holy will always look bad against the runners.. he might also look bad against the Brother's but it's high tide we find out

If you've been paying attention (if you were a real Holy fan) Evander isn't going anywhere without those 4 belts...... the night he REALLY beat Lennox Lewis was the night he was supposed to retire undisputed heavyweight champion with a top 5 resume.... He was robbed vs Ruiz in there finale as well. Evander should be 5 time heavyweight champion by now. He's fighting & he's competed with everyone since his license & his shoulder have been reinstated.. ofcourse.. the comp ain't all much.. but according to all of the haters... that comp was supposed to destroy him because he was shot..


If he was shot he wouldn't be able to defend or protect himself.. he clearly has & he still has pop.. let's see what he can do against Vitali or Wlad.. nobody else CAN DO SHET against them... at least Ho;lyfield WON'T BE INtimidated.. half the battle (right there) won't be in worse physical shape than them again (half the battle) & will actually believe he can win against them & NOT pretend like everyone else... so please don't insult me with your boxing politics... you're insulting The Real deal & you don't even know it... that's the saddest part.

[jimmy1569]

& trust me SONS... you're more afraid of Holyfield beating the brothers than you are of him actually being beaten to a pulp...because if he does actually beat one or both.... the crow being EATEN by fans all around the world will have reached record proportions... so pretend you're concerned about his well being when he can fully defend himself in the ring.... you're concerned about your damn selves & are being selfish.. not selfless like you think.


All your belief systems have a chance to be shattered.. so the same reasons you all think the brothers aren't worthy of greatness is the same reason you don't have faith in a fighter who's not like any other fighter when it comes to determination & heart.. one who's already defied emphatically.. predictions of manslaughter when entering a boxing ring.. this fighter has been there done that & just because he's 50 it;s impossible to do it again... those are your limitations & beliefs.. NOT his... but because everyone here is the majority then automatically it has to rule... you're all full of shet when it comes to the kLITSCHKO'S & you're all full of shet when it comes to Holyfield..

The fact that i'm the only one that's going to tell you that is just more reason for you to claim you're right & i'm wrong.. trust me i know it';s the opposite because I know what a fighter of Evander's caliber is made up just as i know what Vitali is made up of... one day y'all will realize the erroneous positions you have taken when it comes to these 2 one of a kind fighters.

[Dick Smokefield]

One of us loves and respects Evander and it sure as hell isn't you.

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It sure as hell ain't you either.

The kind of respect you show Evander is ONLY with provisions when the going is good... you're a bandwagoner.. son... you think you respect Holyfield but you really don't. If you really respected him.. you wouldn't be making disrespectful comments about his boxing career now as it pertains to him being active.. Has anyone since that Toney fight even hurt Holyfield??? How many fights as he had since then.. how many fights has he had since his license was reinstated? Wouldn't he have been killed by now.. wasn't Tyson going to kill him as well.

The ONLY fights he's lost since reinstatement were back to back title fights to Ibragimov & Valuev & he had Sultan running throughout there fight & got robbed in Germany vs Valuev... let's all pretend that he didn't deserve that WBA bELT because of the stiff he was fighting.. same belt Haye used for leverage in negotiations with the brothers. Styles make fights.. Holy will always look bad against the runners.. he might also look bad against the Brother's but it's high tide we find out

If you've been paying attention (if you were a real Holy fan) Evander isn't going anywhere without those 4 belts...... the night he REALLY beat Lennox Lewis was the night he was supposed to retire undisputed heavyweight champion with a top 5 resume.... He was robbed vs Ruiz in there finale as well. Evander should be 5 time heavyweight champion by now. He's fighting & he's competed with everyone since his license & his shoulder have been reinstated.. ofcourse.. the comp ain't all much.. but according to all of the haters... that comp was supposed to destroy him because he was shot..


If he was shot he wouldn't be able to defend or protect himself.. he clearly has & he still has pop.. let's see what he can do against Vitali or Wlad.. nobody else CAN DO SHET against them... at least Ho;lyfield WON'T BE INtimidated.. half the battle (right there) won't be in worse physical shape than them again (half the battle) & will actually believe he can win against them & NOT pretend like everyone else... so please don't insult me with your boxing politics... you're insulting The Real deal & you don't even know it... that's the saddest part.[/QUOTE]

Wow you are a true Evandork officially hahaha You love you some Real Deal.

But you know what I am rooting for Real
Deal against Wlad...if it happens...and I hope it does. I hope he knocks Wlad the frick out!! Why not?? That **** would be beautiful. Bring the title back to the good ol' US of A where it belongs.

[Cutthroat]

You do realize that when you cut your post to the bare essentials... that the Klitschko's destroy Holyfield & Holyfield destroys the Klitschko's.. the determining factor according to you is a calendar.. forget about the fact you're talking about the same exact fighter & not some other one. A 50 yr old Holy & A 25 yr old Holy is one & the same.. it's the same fighter.. let's stop pretending it's someone else.. only difference is the body has aged.. the mind ageing is not such a negative & compensates for what the body has lost... i look at it as 25 yrs of MORE experience.. you look at it as 25 yrs of deterioration.. Truth is EVERY version of yourself is YOURSELF.. tHE BIGGEST misconception is that we pretend it's somebody else so as to hold on to the great times & pretend the not so great times are non existant & blame it on father time.

When MJ came back with the Wizards he was still one of the top 25 players.. he just wasn't number one anymore as we were accustomed to seeing him & to us that's an utter fail & NOT the real MJ....I got news for all of us that was MJ in the natural progression of his life & that was still good enough to be better than 95 % of all the Nba WHO were younger than him... but we don't look at it in the proper light.. we look at it as somehow MJ showed he was human..

Athletes who stay retired at 40 yrs old just give the impression that all there is to them was there primes.. because they didn't give you the chance to see them in there natural progression.... these over 40 sportsters should be commended for having the guts to let the public see them age in there natural habitat & NOT hold on TO only the good times but accept them in the not so great times as well because they're human.. If the most inhumane athlete of our generation can show himself to be human at an advanced age and be proud of it.. then anybody can without prosecution.

Thanks for the laugh Green K LOL.

[jesusraptor]

a prime holyfield beats both klitschkos