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  • 4Corners
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    Grade these young-prime fighters resumes

    These are young, top fighters right now. They are in their primes, with a good amount of prime years left, so grade their resumes up to this point.

    Andre Ward
    2009: Edison Miranda (32-3)- W UD12
    2009: Mikkel Kessler (42-1)- W TD11 (Won WBA Super Middleweight title)
    2010: Allan Green (29-1)- W UD12
    2011: Arthur Abraham (32-2)- W UD12
    2011: Carl Froch (28-1)- W UD12 (Won WBC Super Middleweight title)

    Timothy Bradley
    2008: Junior Witter (36-1-2)- W SD12 (Won WBC Jr. Welterweight title)
    2009: Kendall Holt (25-2)- W UD12 (Won WBO Jr. Welterweight title)
    2009: Lamont Peterson (27-0)- W UD12
    2010: Luis Carlos Abregu (29-0)- W UD12
    2011: Devon Alexander (21-0)- W TD10 (Won WBC Jr. Welterweight title)
    2011: Joel Casamayor (38-5-1)- W TKO8

    Nonito Donaire
    2007: Vic Darchinyan (28-0)- W TKO5 (Won IBF Flyweight title)
    2007: Luis Maldonado (35-2-1)- W TKO8
    2007: Moruti Mthalane (23-1)- W TKO6
    2009: Raul Martinez (24-0)- W TKO4
    2010: Hernan Marquez (27-1)- W TKO8 (Won WBA Super Flyweight title)
    2011: Fernando Montiel (44-2-2)- W TKO2 (Won WBC and WBO Bantamweight titles)
    2011: Omar Narvaez (35-0-2)- W UD12

    I'd give Ward an A. Miranda, Kessler, Green, Abraham, Froch.

    I'd give Bradley an A-. Witter, Holt, Peterson, Abregu, Alexander. Only the Casamayor fight prevented me from making it an A. Joel had no business being in that fight.

    I'd give Donaire an A- or an A. Darchinyan, Maldonado, Mthalane, Martinez, Marquez, Montiel.

    So far, these guys have taken care of business, and the only reason I'd drop a little on Bradley's is because Casamayor was just a terrible fight, and he should have fought Khan last summer. And the only reason I wouldn't give Donaire a full A was because Narvaez had no business fighting for those titles, at all.
    Last edited by 4Corners; 01-02-2012, 11:25 AM.
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    #2
    B+
    B+
    A-

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    • tito_bandito
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      On paper Bradley's resume looks pretty damn good but the headbutts taint his wins lol

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      • Dick Smokefield
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        They're all pretty close.

        Bradley's best win to me was beating Junior Witter on the road in England when Timmy was still kind of an unknown. B+

        Ward's best win was obviously the Froch fight. A-

        Donaire's best win still has to be when he beat Darchinyan. Vic has never been the same. Donaire knocked the bully out of him. B+

        I give Ward the edge based on the wins vs Kessler and Froch. Donaire second and Bradley third. These 3 will be at the top of the P4P lists for a long time.

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        • 4Corners
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          #5
          Originally posted by Dick Smokefield
          They're all pretty close.

          Bradley's best win to me was beating Junior Witter on the road in England when Timmy was still kind of an unknown. B+

          Ward's best win was obviously the Froch fight. A-

          Donaire's best win still has to be when he beat Darchinyan. Vic has never been the same. Donaire knocked the bully out of him. B+

          I give Ward the edge based on the wins vs Kessler and Froch. Donaire second and Bradley third. These 3 will be at the top of the P4P lists for a long time.
          Agreed. After Mayweather and Pacquiao are gone, I think Bradley will take over at Welterweight for awhile, and I see Ward beating just about anyone at 168-175. Donaire, his biggest test will be Gamboa, Broner, Rigondeaux, Russell Jr, Garcia, etc. I just hope Nonito will fight Rigondeaux at 122, though I highly doubt Arum wants to risk that fight, as he thinks Donaire is the next Pacquiao.

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          • BoxingGenius27
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            #6
            Originally posted by 4CornersKid
            These are young, top fighters right now. They are in their primes, with a good amount of prime years left, so grade their resumes up to this point.

            Andre Ward
            2009: Edison Miranda (32-3)- W UD12
            2009: Mikkel Kessler (42-1)- W TD11 (Won WBA Super Middleweight title)
            2010: Allan Green (29-1)- W UD12
            2011: Arthur Abraham (32-2)- W UD12
            2011: Carl Froch (28-1)- W UD12 (Won WBC Super Middleweight title)

            Timothy Bradley
            2008: Junior Witter (36-1-2)- W SD12 (Won WBC Jr. Welterweight title)
            2009: Kendall Holt (25-2)- W UD12 (Won WBO Jr. Welterweight title)
            2009: Lamont Peterson (27-0)- W UD12
            2010: Luis Carlos Abregu (29-0)- W UD12
            2011: Devon Alexander (21-0)- W TD10 (Won WBC Jr. Welterweight title)
            2011: Joel Casamayor (38-5-1)- W TKO8

            Nonito Donaire
            2007: Vic Darchinyan (28-0)- W TKO5 (Won IBF Flyweight title)
            2007: Luis Maldonado (35-2-1)- W TKO8
            2007: Moruti Mthalane (23-1)- W TKO6
            2009: Raul Martinez (24-0)- W TKO4
            2010: Hernan Marquez (27-1)- W TKO8 (Won WBA Super Flyweight title)
            2011: Fernando Montiel (44-2-2)- W TKO2 (Won WBC and WBO Bantamweight titles)
            2011: Omar Narvaez (35-0-2)- W UD12

            I'd give Ward an A. Miranda, Kessler, Green, Abraham, Froch.

            I'd give Bradley an A-. Witter, Holt, Peterson, Abregu, Alexander. Only the Casamayor fight prevented me from making it an A. Joel had no business being in that fight.

            I'd give Donaire an A- or an A. Darchinyan, Maldonado, Mthalane, Martinez, Marquez, Montiel.

            So far, these guys have taken care of business, and the only reason I'd drop a little on Bradley's is because Casamayor was just a terrible fight, and he should have fought Khan last summer. And the only reason I wouldn't give Donaire a full A was because Narvaez had no business fighting for those titles, at all.
            I would take Miranda off of Ward's resume. That's nothing to be happy over. Miranda was well past his prime by the time he fought Ward. This was not the Miranda that beat Green and I thought beat Abraham in their first fight.

            I would also take Cassamayor off of Bradley's resume. Cassamayor was well past it and shouldn't have been in the ring with Bradley to begin with.

            Besides that, they are solid resume's.

            As of now, I give Ward and Bradley A and B+.

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            • jvsnypes
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              I honestly haven't followed Donaire's career. I lose interest with fighters lower than 135. Something I'm going to have to change. But Ward has an incredible resume. He definitely gets an A+. He is the definition of a true fighter. His next fight should be against a C fighter. He deserves it. Bradley gets an A as well. He's fought some of the best at 140. That's a deep division so at this point, you can't expect him to fight them all. He deserved an easy fight with a nice pay day. Now its time to get rolling again.

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              • Filo
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                Donaire, upset of the year, ring KO of the year and TKO of last year

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                • Dick Smokefield
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                  Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                  Agreed. After Mayweather and Pacquiao are gone, I think Bradley will take over at Welterweight for awhile, and I see Ward beating just about anyone at 168-175. Donaire, his biggest test will be Gamboa, Broner, Rigondeaux, Russell Jr, Garcia, etc. I just hope Nonito will fight Rigondeaux at 122, though I highly doubt Arum wants to risk that fight, as he thinks Donaire is the next Pacquiao.
                  Yeah man the best part about it is there are a bunch of options for great fights with all 3. I've been saying Ward vs Cloud is a dream matchup for a while, but there's Bute, Dawson, Pascal, Hopkins, maybe even Martinez. Bradley has Pac/May, Berto, Ortiz, Khan(if he improves, he's still young), Maidana. Donaire has alll them dudes you mentioned. With all these options, these resumes could look much better soon.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tito_bandito
                    On paper Bradley's resume looks pretty damn good but the headbutts taint his wins lol
                    The irony of an Ortiz fanboy talking about headbutts.

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