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  • Boxing Bob
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    #21
    beating Rhodes is a great win??? Really? Really?

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    • AvoidDisaster
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      #22
      Originally posted by Boxing Bob
      beating Rhodes is a great win??? Really? Really?
      Originally posted by elplayapimp
      Yeah and what about beating Rhodes people are just ******ed that is a great win. People just hate bc he made it look easy. For a 21 year old he has a solid record. Dude also beat Miguel Vazquez and also Tyner who beat Antwone Smith.
      Well let's see Rhodes was undefeated at Junior Middleweight and was also the first southpaw Canelo had ever faced. For that to be his ever title defense and the way he dominated from beginning to end is impressive.

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      • BennyST
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        #23
        Originally posted by SoggyLungs
        I have my doubts. A young guy like canelo needs to fight live opponents..feeding him bums does nothing for him. If he truly wants to learn and grow and become a top tier boxer like pacquiao and mayweather he needs to come up the hard way like they did. Spoon feeding him won't do nothing for him except inflate his ego.
        He is actually being brought along very nicely. He is 21 years old. People forget that. Although it's crappy that these guys aren't being brought up the classic way and do fight stiff after stiff, many of the greats did too.

        Canelo has decent skills, is very young still and is consistently upping his competition slowly, fight by fight. At 21, forget the 'champion' bit for now (he's not a champion), he is still a young up and coming contender and fighting guys like Cintron, Gomez, Baldomir is the perfect road for him and they are good fighters to push him along to the next level.

        Eventually, maybe another year or two he will become true top contender and then championship level. He needs to face his first true test in the next year I believe, but they are bringing him along well imo.

        Despite his high number of fights, he's still only 21 and getting the experience up. At 21, Mayweather hadn't fought his first former champion yet and wouldn't do so until his first title shot against Hernandez at 22/23 or whatever and while Pac had become a champion, the best guy he had fought was Sasakul in his title shot. Apart from that he had beaten nothing but bums (guys not even close to the level of former champs like Baldomir and Cintron despite their ****eness too) and had been knocked out twice by those bums, so they are actually coming up equally. Pac had had quite a few fights by 21, had fought no one but Sasakul, lost twice to nobodies and had also won the title. Mayweather had fought no one, not even a former crappy champion and had only fought former top contender Pep from memory. It's about the same. It just seems like he should be further along because he's had more fights and is being hyped up a lot, but he is being brought along well despite being called some BS titlist.

        He should be thought of as nothing more than a young contender still getting ready for a title shot. Let's face it, titles get passed around like lollies today and there are, in reality, two guys who should be called 'champs' in each divisions at most. The rest are just contenders whether they hold some fake ass title or not.

        Pac isn't and never was a champion at 154, despite winning a title there. He is a champion at 147 though. Malignaggi was never a champ at 140, despite holding a title there too. Bradley is the champ there for me still. Jones Jr was never a World Champion at heavyweight etc etc. It's become so ridiculous that I just don't acknowledge it anymore. They are not World Champions and never were. It's all hype and BS, so I just go by what it would have been 50 years ago when there was the WBC and WBA, one lineal champ, and everyone else was a contender and it still meant something to be an actual top ten contender. Today, all being a paper titlist means to me is that you're a contender, nothing more.

        Canelo is a contender and being brought along just fine. There are some great fights out there for him at 154 and he'll probably start having them in the next year or two. I'd like to see him against one of the other young guys out there soon. Maybe someone like Vanes Martirosyan or someone similar.

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        • Boxing Bob
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          #24
          Well lets see, Rhodes compition at 154 was downright pathetic, all he beat were soft touches by British boxing standards. So a victory over Rhodes is a GREAT win. Not now, not then, not ever

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          • BennyST
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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxing Bob
            beating Rhodes is a great win??? Really? Really?
            Of course it's not great. It's a good current win for a young, 21 year old contender finding his feet and getting contender level experience.

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            • Check_hooks
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              #26
              Canelo would get sparked out by Clottey and Cotto

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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxing Bob
                Well lets see, Rhodes compition at 154 was downright pathetic, all he beat were soft touches by British boxing standards. So a victory over Rhodes is a GREAT win. Not now, not then, not ever
                At least Rhodes beat Jr. middleweights Canelo had never faced a full-fledged junior middleweight before Rhodes. All of Canelo's fights were against welterweights or lower at a catchweight of 150 lbs.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BennyST
                  Of course it's not great. It's a good current win for a young, 21 year old contender finding his feet and getting contender level experience.
                  Yeah I wouldn't call it great either, just impressive. Lot of unanswered questions were answered. How would he do with a switch hitting southpaw, a full-fledged jr middleweight? Stuff like that.

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                  • Boxing Bob
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                    #29
                    Whats's all this crap about about he's young and being a up and coming contender? This guy is walking around supposed to be the best in the world at 154, if you won't fight a champions schedule give up the title already. To walk around calling yourself a champion and fighting bums is killing this great sport! So Canelo never faced a full fledged 154lber before Rhodes? In his 2nd defence of the 154lb title? See where I'm going with this?

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                    • kiaba360
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                      #30
                      Hopefully he fights 3 quality opponents this year. I would love to see him matched up with Trout, Delvin Rodriguez, and Vanes.

                      Golden Boy has Lara, Kirkland, Angulo, and Sergio Mora. Expect them to keep all the money in-house, and pit Canelo against them.

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