Would Tim Bradley be a harder fight for JMM than Pac was?

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  • BoxingGenius27
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    #61
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
    Why does that hold any importance, the weight? Both Pacquiao and Bradley are practically the same size, same Bradley, only different opponent. In the bold, not physically, which was Cotto, Clottey, Margarito...name it, in the end none of that mattered, but in the areas I noted, better body puncher, better conditioned, defense, right hand, counter punching. He's not as battle worn as Cotto either...
    If you think weight isn't important in determining how a fight will play out, I don't know what to tell you.

    Secondly, Bradley and pac might be the same size, but Pac is much more explosive and hits 10x harder than Bradley. Are you seriously denying this?

    I don't understand what you're saying in the bold above. Re-word it.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #62
      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
      If you think weight isn't important in determining how a fight will play out, I don't know what to tell you.

      Secondly, Bradley and pac might be the same size, but Pac is much more explosive and hits 10x harder than Bradley. Are you seriously denying this?

      I don't understand what you're saying in the bold above. Re-word it.
      Pacquiao ain't any bigger than Peterson, Alexander, Abregu, size isn't a determining factor in this one as they're practically the same size. Difference is opponent, that's it, so weight is irrelevant here. Bold, physical strength.

      Also I didn't say weight isn't a determining factor in how a fight plays out, just like I didn't base my analysis off of the Abregu fight. Pacquiao is the harder puncher, no I'm not denying that and I never have. It'll help him but that won't decide it, say the two ever meet.

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      • AntDawg
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        #63
        Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
        Not sure what fight you saw but I saw Bradley winn a UD! Holt got out box for 12 rounds. He landed two good shots and Bradley got up and continued whipping dat a$$! everybody who knows Holt as a fighter will agree he can box, hes fast and accurate, yet he could not get into his grove against Bradley.
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
        Yeah, he outworked him and won easily. I don't know what you saw
        He won a close UD against a counter puncher who didn't really throw and got knocked down twice. Now imagine Marquez a better counter puncher and is way more active than Holt.

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        • BoxingGenius27
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          #64
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
          Pacquiao ain't any bigger than Peterson, Alexander, Abregu, size isn't a determining factor in this one as they're practically the same size. Difference is opponent, that's it, so weight is irrelevant here. Bold, physical strength.

          Also I didn't say weight isn't a determining factor in how a fight plays out, just like I didn't base my analysis off of the Abregu fight. Pacquiao is the harder puncher, no I'm not denying that and I never have. It'll help him but that won't decide it, say the two ever meet.
          But I think size and strength is a determining factor here.

          If we're talking about "at the time" and forgetting about hindsight (i hate hindsight) when talking boxing; Clottey, Margarito, and Cotto were considered physically strong welterweights. I think Pac proved to be stronger and ended up being the predator and not the prey in their fights.

          That's why this is important when discussing a fight between Pac and Bradley at 147. Just because they're the same size, Pac at 147 is physically much more powerful than Alexander and Peterson at 140. Bradley hasn't proved anything at 147 which is why you can't compare him and Cotto at 147.

          Lastly, yes 147 and 140 are huge differences. You can't just say Peterson, Bradley, and Alexander are the same size as Pac so that means they'll have the same affect at 147 as they did at 140. No, it doesn't work like that.

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          • SWEETSCIENCE100
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            #65
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
            Maybe you missed it but I just named them
            Dude don't argue with BOXING GENUIS" hes an idiot kid who doesn't know **** about boxing. Thats why hes on my ignore list! After the fight, that is if Pacquaio grow some balls and fight a winner, then we'll see. I promise you that BOXING GENUIS wont be around for comments. He will pretend he never argued the fact that Bradley is the superior fighter in everyway against Pacquaio, and Marquez. Bradley is Stronger,Smarter,better timing to counter act speed,better footwork,defense,and accuracy. Marquez will lose against Bradley!Pacquiao will lose this fight agaisnt Bradley in a lop sided beating, worst than he lost all three of the fights against Marquez.

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              #66
              Originally posted by AntDawg
              He won a close UD against a counter puncher who didn't really throw and got knocked down twice. Now imagine Marquez a better counter puncher and is way more active than Holt.
              Marquez doesn't have the speed like holt. His squared up style will work against him aswell against Bradley. Bradley will man handle Marquez

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                #67
                I see JMM outboxing, and outlading Tim for a UD. But a TR (Arum) fighter will always get the decision in the end.

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                • BoxingGenius27
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
                  Dude don't argue with BOXING GENUIS" hes an idiot kid who doesn't know **** about boxing. Thats why hes on my ignore list! After the fight, that is if Pacquaio grow some balls and fight a winner, then we'll see. I promise you that BOXING GENUIS wont be around for comments. He will pretend he never argued the fact that Bradley is the superior fighter in everyway against Pacquaio, and Marquez. Bradley is Stronger,Smarter,better timing to counter act speed,better footwork,defense,and accuracy. Marquez will lose against Bradley!Pacquiao will lose this fight agaisnt Bradley in a lop sided beating, worst than he lost all three of the fights against Marquez.
                  LMAO You use a highlights video of Bradley vs Abregu and say that's why Bradley will beat Pac and wonder why you get called out on your BS?

                  I've always said that I think Bradley matches up better against Marquez and probably beats him; as for Pacquiao, Bradley can't beat Pac at 140 or 147.

                  But anyway, here, take this for your troubles
                  Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 01-01-2012, 05:35 PM.

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                    #69
                    I think he potentially could be a tougher fight for Marquez than Pacquiao was.

                    Bradley is very versatile so he could cause Marquez alot of problems.

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                    • jai mari078
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                      #70
                      Bradley would get schooled easily by Marquez!

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