Anything to do with "P4P" is a joke.

[DeadLikeMe]

In otherwodds it only counts if your boy is on top.

People used to fall 3-4 places just for taking an easy fight while someone else won a tough fight. Now people can take a year vacation or fight 2 cherry picks and not even worry about losing a spot. Just go back and look from 1990 up until today and be amazed at how stagnant it has become over the last 5 years or so.

[E-Thug]

LOL P4P is a load of ****. A clearly subjective measure to which people cling onto like it's some precious understanding in their lives - in realtiy it's a load of ****

[Spray_resistant]

Really. When you think about it. It is basically all based on opinion, the knowledge of the creator/'s, and is most definately open to bias and favoritsm. Whether people want to admit it or not, you never see a p4p list that is accurate and in line with your views and beliefs.

Your right, I had a thread where I broke down why its laughable and what is even more laughable is it gets more consideration that divisional ranking which are based on actual fights that take place in real life and not just ppls imagination.

[jtiger777]

Really. When you think about it. It is basically all based on opinion, the knowledge of the creator/'s, and is most definately open to bias and favoritsm. Whether people want to admit it or not, you never see a p4p list that is accurate and in line with your views and beliefs.

ive been saying this for years, people who actually argue over other peoples list dont realize its an empty argument

[Left Hook Tua]

Really. When you think about it. It is basically all based on opinion, the knowledge of the creator/'s, and is most definately open to bias and favoritsm. Whether people want to admit it or not, you never see a p4p list that is accurate and in line with your views and beliefs.

every form of ratings/rankings are based on opinion , genius.

[nomadman]

Really. When you think about it. It is basically all based on opinion, the knowledge of the creator/'s, and is most definately open to bias and favoritsm. Whether people want to admit it or not, you never see a p4p list that is accurate and in line with your views and beliefs.

Of course it's all based on opinion, you obvious man. But why does that automatically make it "a joke"? Are all opinions jokes? Some are, those that are based on ignorance, biases, or a general lack of intelligence or ability to analyse what one is watching. Others most certainly are not.

The Ring P4P list is compiled by most of the best sports writers in the business, men with large bodies of experience, trained to weigh everything before coming to a conclusion. Therefore the Ring P4P list is generally considered the most authoritative. That doesn't make it right, of course, because nothing subjective is ever inherently right. It can only be argued to be so. But any P4P list that provides similarly well argued reasons for their choices and omissions shouldn't be dismissed either.

P4P lists give us a good guage on whom many boxing fans consider to be the best in the sport, regardless of weightclass, nothing more.

[nomadman]

ive been saying this for years, people who actually argue over other peoples list dont realize its an empty argument

Not necessarily. No one is perfect, and some people might have left fighters off, or rated others too high, that only good argument can convince them was done mistakenly. You can ultimately disagree, but if you aren't open to having your opinions changed then what are you doing on a discussion forum?

[borikua]

I agree, it's pure bull****.