Who should Andre Ward fight next?

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    Originally posted by BoxingGoofball69
    But, but, but are you absolutely SURE that Bute doesn't need to fight Froch or Kessler before he can be worthy of challenging for the SMW Championship?
    Yeah, I'm absolutely sure he doesn't need to, since I've never said that his accomplishments to date weren't "worthy" of a challenger for the Championship at SMW.


    Originally posted by BoxingGoofball69
    If Bute's resume (Huge win over Johnson) is so "deserving" for a fight against Ward (as YOU put it), why does he even need to fight Froch or Kessler first "as YOU put it"?
    Because I personally, subjectively, want to see him go through the ringer and get beaten up, clown. I can easily understand you misapprehending those remarks in the first instance of reading them, that would be entirely forgivable - but they have now been clarified, so you should find something else to cling to in lieu of having a valid point in the argument.

    There's a difference between objectively realizing that Bute is a worthy challenger and subjectively feeling like he needs to go through the ringer and earn it a bit more. Objectivity > subjectivity in a debate like this - if you understood that, you wouldn't have been arguing and trolling like a demented moron over this for the last week.


    Originally posted by BoxingGoofball69
    If so, how would a win over Froch (coming off a loss) and Kessler be bigger than a win over Cloud? If Bute is in talks with B-hop before facing Ward, why not cloud instead?
    He can fight Hopkins, Cloud or Wlad Klitschko for all I care. The point is that he isn't in any way even remotely obligated to go outside his weight class and fight a top LHW in order to warrant a shot at the man in his weight class. The two things aren't related. It's that simple. Some fighters have done it to seek activity and accomplishments and marketability, but show me where boxing, historically, has ever set a precedent for men being obligated to go up in weight before they could earn a shot at the Championship in their own weight class. They're called divisions for a reason, fool. You make zero sense.


    Originally posted by BoxingGoofball69
    Lastly, if Froch or Kessler beats Bute, wouldn't that change who Ward's next opponent would be; therefore, completely ruining your options in the poll? Yes, you have "other" but you know what I mean. The poll should read winner of Bute vs Fighter A, Fighter B, and so on.....
    No. If they don't fight each other next, they'll be fighting other guys. If Bute fought Froch or Kessler next, Ward's next opponent would be someone else (Dirrell, whoever) two or three months later.
    Ward and Bute either fight each other next (unlikely) or they'll each fight another guy by sometime next Summer, after which the clamour for them to meet will resume (assuming they both win). If Ward and Bute don't fight next and Bute signs to fight Froch or Kessler, Ward will be scheduled to fight someone else, regardless of whether Bute wins, loses or draws (unless Ward's hand injury is a worst case scenario and recurs in training, keeping him out for longer than projected, which is just speculation on an event that can't be legislated for).

    Sidenote; if he returns as scheduled, Kessler will be meeting Stieglitz in the Spring next by all accounts, anyway, which likely takes him off the table as an immediate proposition for either Bute or Ward.


    Originally posted by BoxingGoofball69
    Viewers at home, this is what happens when you're too smart for your own good and you say things just to say it out of spite...............
    Uh, mothers of the world, BoxingGoofball69 is what happens when you buy your remedial, mentally challenged, live-at-home sons laptops for their birthdays.


    Originally posted by BoxingGoofball69
    LMAO Hey troll, did you hear this from yourself? I heard of multiple personalities, and I was told to look at you for an example of such, but I didn't want to believe it... Lol But you're making it awfully hard..

    Never return to NSB again LMAO
    And? Where did I contradict my opinion that Anthony would be a lame defence? Nowhere. Mando or not, it's a lame defence, although Ward will be obligated to go through with it if he wants to keep that green belt and I wouldn't think less of him for it.
    I was referring the correspondent to your ****** contention that all of the potential new challengers to Ward's Championship are equally unworthy, be they the somewhat accomplished Bute or the much less accomplished Dirrell.




    You have to be most asinine poster I've come across lately. I'm entirely bored of your agenda-driven, insipid rambling with no valid point attached - if you can place a solid poster with knowledge like jro13 on your ignore-list, I can certainly put you on mine.
    Friendly tip; stop talking for the sake of it and polluting this thread and the subforum in general, f*ggot.

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      Ooh, look, 87.10% of rational boxing fans think BoxingGoofball69 is ******ed.

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