How good is Andre Ward???

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    Il Principe
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    #11
    He's really really good.

    I've said it after he fought Abraham. He can fight every style. He may not have 1hko power but he can box, brawl, slug, inside, outside, mid-range. He's too good.

    He'll lose eventually because I don't think he will cherry pick. But he is really good.

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    • Kagami Taiga
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      #12
      hes the best fighter above 160. only one close is direll. and that includes bhop and dawson.

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      • -Kev-
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        #13
        Good enough to dominate Kessler, Green, Abraham, and Froch in whatever way he felt like fighting them, never fighting their fight. And good enough to outfight Bika at his own game. Also outboxing a one-dimensional and a bit faded, but still dangerous puncher at the time, in Edison Miranda.

        At 27 years old, i'd say he's done more than other 27 year olds in his era. And being the first ever Super 6 Tournament winner, I think people will look back at him years from now as the most dominant fighter of any future tourney to be held by Showtime.

        People don't seem to stop and appreciate the number of W's he just got against the type of opposition he did it against. Ward is just one big win away, against Lucian Bute, from finishing up at 168 and moving on to 175 to fight Dawson, Pascal, Cloud, etc. I don't know what else he could do after 175 if he stays undefeated. I think the Super 6 basically helped him advance his career way too much.

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        • -Kev-
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          #14
          Originally posted by DempseyRollin
          hes the best fighter above 160. only one close is direll. and that includes bhop and dawson.
          With all their styles it's a bit tricky to figure out who's better without them fighting each other.

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          • Bushbaby
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            #15
            Well, he's the best fighter in arguably boxings best division. Consider this, the 2 top pfp fighters reside in the same weightclass & have never fought. Ward sonned every oponent in the best weight class in the sport.

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            • .::|ULTIMATE|::.
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              #16
              Ward is good but one must remember the talent pool isn't as deep as the lower weight classes.

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              • Kagami Taiga
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                #17
                Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                Ward is good but one must remember the talent pool isn't as deep as the lower weight classes.
                That's not true. Smw us one of the deepest divisions in all of boxing. Deeper than every weight class but bantam and jww probably.

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                • jrosales13
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                  hes the best fighter above 160. only one close is direll. and that includes bhop and dawson.
                  Only Dirrell comes close?

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                  • Kagami Taiga
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Only Dirrell comes close?
                    I meant best American fighter. My fault.

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                      I meant best American fighter. My fault.
                      Oh OK . I was scratching my head...But, even then I don't think I would put him over Dawson or even Cunningham.

                      I don't know about Dirrell...I just don't. I get the feeling his going to be another Zab Judah. Where fans are going to overrate him because of his talent. He is very gifted no doubt. But, I don't think he has the intangibles or the strength mentally to be a true elite.

                      But, he might be able to put it all togehter. But, for me the jury is still out on him. The way he acted this whole S6 was just head scratching to me.

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