Yeah, lets all think like Oner...hey, Gamboa can beat Hopkins, the K brothers, Mayweather and Pac all in one night while we are at it. Heck, I bet he could beat prime Leonard, Robinson, and Ali all in one night while we are at it.
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They shouldn't build Gamboa up like this, "The Guy Who Can Beat Mayweather/Pacquiao". They should try to make him his own name, not build him off of other superstars.
How about beating Adrien Broner first? Bradley? Rios, Guerrero, Maidana, Peterson, Khan, DeMarco, Linares, Guzman?
Lots of names out there that you can claim Gamboa can beat, you don't have to go mention names up at welterweight, then say Gamboa will fight at 140 tops, come on. Target the guys at 130-140 then. Broner is a good super fight to begin with.
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Gamboa fighting anyone b/w 126-140, is a force to be recon with--why? Well, it's simple: his super fast hand speed--which is faster than both Pac and Floyd. He's a little guy bro, but it doesn't matter b/c of how fast he get his punches off. The million dollar question is whether or not he keeps that hand speed, b/c if he skips a beat, fighting those two guys could mean a KO or embarassment.
I think he and Pac could fight at a catchweight though. Pac for the first time would have to deal with a lil dude with faster hands than him,,,how does Pac make that adjustment we don't know? But, one things for certain someone gets knocked out in this fight--b/c of the two aggressive styles.
Mayweather being the much bigger fighter wouldn't necessary be the stronger of the two: plus Gamboa hit harder than Mayweather. Again if Gamboa keeps that hand speed (which at 147 I doubt, but you never know) his style would give Floyd fits--at least in the early rounds it would. Plus, Gamboa's quickness of feet would kind of throw Mayweather's game off a bit as well: Floyd would have a guy who's just as balance and graceful as he in the ring--but younger.
Also, I just don't think you can potshot a lil fast hand dude with a lot pop--it would be kind of dangerous for Floyd to even stay in pocket and try and "d" that lil dude up man. Floyd's shoulder roll defense is designed to catch a lot of wide punches--which, of course, Gamboa doesn't throw: Gamboa throws what's called a chopping right hand, it's extremely quick, fighters don't see it coming and he never misses with it. Gamboa's only problem with Mayweather, obviously, would be his no head movement (Floyd would have a field day with that), and of course, his experience level--i.e., getting too excited, punching his self out or getting too careless in there--Floyd's a very slick fighter bro.
I think his promoters is doing the right thing though, I know I if I had a gold medalist exciting prospect like that, I'd be calling out all the elite guys,,,,,but I agree with everyone else, let's see what he does against a guy like Rios first at 135, who's no push over himself.
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Originally posted by FoxingFan2010 View PostGamboa fighting anyone b/w 126-140, is a force to be recon with--why? Well, it's simple: his super fast hand speed--which is faster than both Pac and Floyd. He's a little guy bro, but it doesn't matter b/c of how fast he get his punches off. The million dollar question is whether or not he keeps that hand speed, b/c if he skips a beat, fighting those two guys could mean a KO or embarassment.
I think he and Pac could fight at a catchweight though. Pac for the first time would have to deal with a lil dude with faster hands than him,,,how does Pac make that adjustment we don't know? But, one things for certain someone gets knocked out in this fight--b/c of the two aggressive styles.
Mayweather being the much bigger fighter wouldn't necessary be the stronger of the two: plus Gamboa hit harder than Mayweather. Again if Gamboa keeps that hand speed (which at 147 I doubt, but you never know) his style would give Floyd fits--at least in the early rounds it would. Plus, Gamboa's quickness of feet would kind of throw Mayweather's game off a bit as well: Floyd would have a guy who's just as balance and graceful as he in the ring--but younger.
Also, I just don't think you can potshot a lil fast hand dude with a lot pop--it would be kind of dangerous for Floyd to even stay in pocket and try and "d" that lil dude up man. Floyd's shoulder roll defense is designed to catch a lot of wide punches--which, of course, Gamboa doesn't throw: Gamboa throws what's called a chopping right hand, it's extremely quick, fighters don't see it coming and he never misses with it. Gamboa's only problem with Mayweather, obviously, would be his no head movement (Floyd would have a field day with that), and of course, his experience level--i.e., getting too excited, punching his self out or getting too careless in there--Floyd's a very slick fighter bro.
I think his promoters is doing the right thing though, I know I if I had a gold medalist exciting prospect like that, I'd be calling out all the elite guys,,,,,but I agree with everyone else, let's see what he does against a guy like Rios first at 135, who's no push over himself.
Speed is not a magic bullet, and is second only to power in the " over-rated " department. Both intangibles are great, and pretty much a must-have if you want to be regarded as elite, but neither have ever been a prerequisite to winning a boxing match.
I would be very surprised if Gamboa was as effective/quick at lightweight, let alone welter..... fighting May/Pac above 140 is a HUGE ask imho, as would be fighting Marquez at 135.
Were boxing to have any integrity left we would not even be discussing this, because Gamboa would be looking to own fw/sfw for the next 4-5 years instead of star-gazing at Pac/May for the payday.
But great post man.
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"Pac has great hand-speed, but we all saw what happened against Marquez.
Speed is not a magic bullet, and is second only to power in the " over-rated " department. Both intangibles are great, and pretty much a must-have if you want to be regarded as elite, but neither have ever been a prerequisite to winning a boxing match.
I would be very surprised if Gamboa was as effective/quick at lightweight, let alone welter..... fighting May/Pac above 140 is a HUGE ask imho, as would be fighting Marquez at 135.
Were boxing to have any integrity left we would not even be discussing this, because Gamboa would be looking to own fw/sfw for the next 4-5 years instead of star-gazing at Pac/May for the payday.
But great post man."
Yeah he'd definately be doing it for the money--I can't says I'd blame him either.. And I agree speed isn't everything, but his all around athletecism is the best I've seen since a young Roy. His short stature conceals his strenght,,,I wouldn't let his size fool you, Gamboa is a very strong dude man. The Cuban government subsizes its athletic program,,,so this little dude was brought-up to do nothing other than boxing.
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