Why Did Hopkins Lose To Taylor?

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  • Bozo_no no
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    #31
    Originally posted by mexway
    Taylor won because hopkins did nothing for the first eight rounds this is boxing and yes your right defense is important but offense is more so and hopkins had none. He looked unwilling to challenge a younger fighter maybe its his age maybe its the fact that taylor was a big step up in opposition compared to his last few fights. it was close but i score impartially i had it 115-113 Taylor and stand by my score. even after watching the fight multiple times. if hopkins is to beat taylor he has to fight for 12 rds not just 3-4 and expect to be givin a win.

    Very poor take.

    Look at the stats:

    Originally posted by kbpoetree

    Total Punches Landed / Thrown

    Round
    123456789101112
    Hopkins2/125/207/137/307/204/174/154/2411/3416/5617/4012/45
    17%25%54%23%35%24%27%17%32%29%42%27%
    Taylor3/3312/395/387/398/3817/456/305/416/438/424/285/37
    9%31%13%18%21%38%20%12%14%19%14%14%

    If Taylor was landing 20 jabs a round, your account might be credible.

    But he wasn't, he was landing only slightly higher than Hopkins, with jabs vs Hopkins counter power shots.

    The fact he was missing 70 - 80 % of his jabs shows Hopkins defense was playing a bigger factor in those rounds than it normally would in rounds where 1 fighter is outlanding the other significantly.

    Again, those early rounds were very subjective, and anyone that's talking like their account is more correct than anyone elses is very full of themsleves.

    The fight could have been 115-113 either way.

    End of story.

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    • TuPrincipe
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      #32
      Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
      Very poor take.

      Look at the stats:




      If Taylor was landing 20 jabs a round, your account might be credible.

      But he wasn't, he was landing only slightly higher than Hopkins, with jabs vs Hopkins counter power shots.

      The fact he was missing 70 - 80 % of his jabs shows Hopkins defense was playing a bigger factor in those rounds than it normally would in rounds where 1 fighter is outlanding the other significantly.

      Again, those early rounds were very subjective, and anyone that's talking like their account is more correct than anyone elses is very full of themsleves.

      The fight could have been 115-113 either way.

      End of story.
      The funny thing is you were saying before how compubox stats don't tell the whole story and now you referring to compubox stats.

      I smell a little bit of hypocrisy here.

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      • Bozo_no no
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        #33
        Originally posted by TuPrincipe
        The funny thing is you were saying before how compubox stats don't tell the whole story and now you referring to compubox stats.

        I smell a little bit of hypocrisy here.

        Sigh....

        You need to add a bit of common sense.

        I said they show that neither fighter was significantly outlanding the other, and provided the stats to show that.

        There's a difference.

        I didn't use the stats to try and prove one fighter was superior than the other, I showed they weren't far apart.

        Suggesting I can't ever refer to stats because I told someone you can't just use stats as being difinitive is silly.


        Last edited by Bozo_no no; 11-12-2005, 08:35 PM.

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        • mexway
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          #34
          Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
          Very poor take.

          Look at the stats:




          If Taylor was landing 20 jabs a round, your account might be credible.

          But he wasn't, he was landing only slightly higher than Hopkins, with jabs vs Hopkins counter power shots.

          The fact he was missing 70 - 80 % of his jabs shows Hopkins defense was playing a bigger factor in those rounds than it normally would in rounds where 1 fighter is outlanding the other significantly.

          Again, those early rounds were very subjective, and anyone that's talking like their account is more correct than anyone elses is very full of themsleves.

          The fight could have been 115-113 either way.

          End of story.
          First of i dont believe compubox stats are accurate secondly i never said i was the end all adn be all of scoring if you ever read any of my few post on this subject you would see that i have said many times its waa close fight and could be scored either way but i believe that taylor looked more effective he seemed to me to be dictating the fight till the final four round. dont show stats and say thiat all that matters.

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