Cotto Is Doing The Smart Thing With His Career

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  • Eladio-Mor
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    #31
    So you want cotto to turn into sweat pea lol ???

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    • The Surgeon
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      #32
      Originally posted by cotto#1p4p
      While it's a good idea against some guys I hope Diaz doesn't have Cotto do it against all fighters. It would take away a lot ,of what makes Cotto a fan favorite and a crowd pleaser. Vintage Miguel Cotto is standing his ground or backing up his opponent, get in close on the inside and then firing away powerful hooks and uppers on the inside to the head and body.

      I hope Diaz gets Cotto to go back to the body like he used to.
      What makes Cotto Cotto for me is his versatility. He was a beast pressuring his man and ****ing home big body shots while cutting off the ring (better than anyone in the game i may add) but he has shown his boxing side throughout his career, a couple of examples being Ceballos and Abdullaev, people acting all shocked when he got on the backfoot vs Shane late made me laugh. But Cotto is a former Jr WW fighting at Light Middle now, he isnt the big bulldozer of old able to pile on the pounds after the weigh in and be the stronger harder hitting man. Though he is still strong and can still crack. His face dont hold up to punishment the same these days either, he's prone to cuts and swelling which is another reason to keep out of harms way. I think he has enough shows of guts and courage and has enough Wars under his belt to give him a pass on electing to do things the smart way in the final few fights of his career, Great Fighters always or damn near always evolve their style as the get older in their careers.


      I think Diaz will know the huge advantages of body punching despite coming from an AM background for the most part, infact i think Miguel made an effort to work the body at times vs Marg but he just couldnt get it going effectively and Margs who has a speedball for a head does protect his body fairly well

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      • Easy-E
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        #33
        That might work, but not against someone who can outbox him (Floyd) or overpower him (Manny/Martinez). Those guys are simply too fast.

        Miguel is my dude, but he should be thinking JJC Jr. and Alvarez, not Floyd, Martinez and Pac.

        Cause he can't win.

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          #34
          Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth
          This is something that has been over looked by almost everyone. That right hand look very powerfull and it moved Margarito back almost every time Cotto landed it. Another advantage for Cotto at 154 is his speed compared to the other 154 pounders I think for the first time in his career you can say Cotto is the fastest guy in his division and that is a huge plus going foward.
          Man i watched some Old Miguel Cotto fights a few weeks back from his early JWW days and he was QUICK, the commentators even kept commenting on his speed. Was kinda sucky to see him slow up as he went on... Not that he was ever slow but he just wasnt a stand out speed guy.

          His speed is looking more pronounced as he is facing bigger slower guys thats for sure. That right hand of Cotto's despite it being the jabs and left hooks that did the eye in was the stand out punch of the fight for me on Sat, a real cannonball right hand. That shoulder held him back along time with the right (u probably know but he was in a bad crash and has plates in his shoulder now) maybe he is finally confident in throwing it with real force.... I dont know the crash was along time ago... Whatever it looked great and he needs to keep using it like that

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          • hbonnie21
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            #35
            Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth
            From what I read on the PR papers Pedro diaz says that is the style Cotto will use from now on "the hit and not get hit" style by going back to his roots of amateur boxing, learning new defensive techniques and learning to clinch to save his stamina, Cotto is doing the right thing for the sake of his career. He is turning in to a defensive pot shot fighter who fights behind an amazing jab and if he keeps working on the right hand he will keep improving and for a guy who is 31 years old that says a lot.
            the art of boxing is hit and not get hit lol, it took him two brutal beatings to realize that. smh.

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            • The Surgeon
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              #36
              Originally posted by Easy-E
              That might work, but not against someone who can outbox him (Floyd) or overpower him (Manny/Martinez). Those guys are simply too fast.

              Miguel is my dude, but he should be thinking JJC Jr. and Alvarez, not Floyd, Martinez and Pac.

              Cause he can't win.
              Id rather he fought Alvarez, its a great fight stylistically! Saul is unbeaten, a champion and Mexican aswell as being highly credible imo

              Pac i like Miguel's chances with if im honest, Manny would start favourite and i accept that but id put a few bones on Miguel turning the tables on him if it was at a fair weight. Remember Cotto gave him trouble early with NO Trainer untill he got too macho and tried to rumble.... Even late when Cotto was in full retreat i thought if he had Boxed on the backfoot early he could have had this because Manny was looking clumsy and very frustrated (winning though he may have been), he dont like to look for his man...

              Martinez id take over Chavez because he is THE MW Champ but is far smaller and Cotto wouldnt get the credit he deserves if he beat a big Young fighter who probably walks around at 200lbs in Jnr...

              Sergio dont like to go looking for his man either and if ur quick with a good jab u can catch him, Barker showed Martinez is beatable and that the hype train was running too much on him. Serg is a great fighter though. I think its a winnable one for Cotto but i dunno...

              Mayweather? He cant beat this man and he sure cant outbox him.

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              • AllEyesOpen
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                #37
                If Cotto can maintain his focus & conditioning at such a high level from here on out then i'd give him a shot against most fighters at 154. Of course that easier said then done.

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                • MR. T2
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Yogi007
                  Why would you say that I didn't answer your question when it was answered? Just because I didn't directly day your name or repeat the question before answering, doesn't mean I didn't answer it...

                  He ran and stopped every now and then to throw some pot shots. Like I said, I get it. Cotto had no choice in that fight, but to fight that way. If Cotto would have tried to keep it in the center of the ring, turn Marg, and just tried to out box him, he probably would have just gotten pummeled again. I don't blame Cotto for fighting like that, because that was the only chance he had in the fight. I am just saying, if that is the only Cotto that we can expect to see from now on, it is going to make for some pretty boring fights. I would much rather pay to see the Cotto that comes forward, break his opponent down, both physically and mentally, then takes them out with those nice body shots. That is the exciting Cotto that made him who he is.
                  no, you're not answering my question. how does someone outland by 70 punches just by running? how does someone land over 200 punches (150 being power shots) by stopping "every now a then"?

                  you make no sense whatsoever

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                  • AlwaysOnTop
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth
                    From what I read on the PR papers Pedro diaz says that is the style Cotto will use from now on "the hit and not get hit" style by going back to his roots of amateur boxing, learning new defensive techniques and learning to clinch to save his stamina, Cotto is doing the right thing for the sake of his career. He is turning in to a defensive pot shot fighter who fights behind an amazing jab and if he keeps working on the right hand he will keep improving and for a guy who is 31 years old that says a lot.
                    You are delusional..

                    Cotto is done..

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                    • KingTito
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                      #40
                      That's a good idea. He has the abilities to win a Pac rematch. Will he do it? I don't know.

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