what does Margarito need to do to secure his legacy and even get into the HOF??

[LoadedWraps]

Point is you dont KNOW that.

People "knew" Mark Mcgwire was gonna make easily make the HOF when he retired in 2001

But he cant even get 25% of the votes now

McGwire is not as great in baseball as Mosley is in boxing, not even close. The general consensus among boxing fans is that he will be in the HOF.

Comparing the use of plaster or loading up your wraps to taking PED's is apples and oranges....One form of cheating is much much more severe than the other. It's not even comparable.

Wrong.

[Russian Crushin]

Well I thought we were talking about possibilities for marg to make the HOF and its always brought into question about the wraps, which is a fair call but when other cheats in a similar position such as RJJ and Mosley, their PED use (especially RJJ) isnt really questioned so much.

Its just an observation.

But they havent actually made the HOF. The HOF vote is taken by the BWAA(i think) and if they believe they were cheats and shouldnt make the HOF because of it then they wont vote them in. You cant say "oh if RJJ and Mosey can make the HOF, then why cant Marg" because RJJ and Mosley havent actually made the HOF

Plus there are different types of cheating. In boxing doing something like loading our hands is by far the worst.

[Russian Crushin]

McGwire is not as great in baseball as Mosley is in boxing, not even close. The general consensus among boxing fans is that he will be in the HOF.

You obviously didnt follow baseball

[jrosales13]

Wrong.

Apples and oranges...Going into the ring(or trying to) with loaded wraps is seen as much much worse. The severity of these cheating tactics is wide apart.

[Russian Crushin]

Comparing the use of plaster or loading up your wraps to taking PED's is apples and oranges....One form of cheating is much much more severe than the other. It's not even comparable.

Of course

But some will agree that youre wrong. Thats because JCC jr taking a banned diuretic is as bad as Resto or Marg loading their gloves

[LoadedWraps]

You obviously didnt follow baseball

I am actually huge on baseball, I watch every Giants game religiously, and McGwire is NOT THAT great lol. He was one of the best in his prime, but there are so many great baseball players that haven't made the HOF yet..

anyway unless McGwire is lacing it up sometime soon who cares about Mark lol.
The discussion at hand is Margarito's legacy and how you all are hating on it.

[jrosales13]

Even before Margarito got caught he had a long shot getting into the HOF...Now after the scandal he really has no chance to get in...He has to accomplish somethings that quite frankly might be impossible for him to accomplish if he wants to get in.

[jrosales13]

Of course

But some will agree that youre wrong. Thats because JCC jr taking a banned diuretic is as bad as Resto or Marg loading their gloves

, right? Sometimes I can't understand the logic that some use on here.

[LoadedWraps]

Apples and oranges...Going into the ring(or trying to) with loaded wraps is seen as much much worse. The severity of these cheating tactics is wide apart.

I hope your joking. PEDs is less severe than loaded gloves? Laughable.
if anything PEDs are worse, because they produce so many physical changes in the body, as opposed to simply applying plaster to your fists.

[Russian Crushin]

I am actually huge on baseball, I watch every Giants game religiously, and McGwire is NOT THAT great lol. He was one of the best in his prime, but there are so many great baseball players that haven't made the HOF yet..

anyway unless McGwire is lacing it up sometime soon who cares about Mark lol.
The discussion at hand is Margarito's legacy and how you all are hating on it.

From you saying Mcgwire wasnt considered THAT great to you trying to change the topic, just give up bro