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  • jrosales13
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    #21
    Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
    Yeah, did you see Pacquiao after the Cotto fight? He didn't need to say he hit hard. It was self evident. margarito on the other hand...he felt he had to give him credit for something. In other words, Pacquiao was being charitable.
    He was in more trouble against Margarito than he was at any point against Cotto. So yes his saying Marg hits harder than Cotto is credible.

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    • Nuurzhaelan
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      #22
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      He was in more trouble against Margarito than he was at any point against Cotto. So yes his saying Marg hits harder than Cotto is credible.
      Did he actually say that? Well, Pacquiao was 17 pounds lighter than margarito at the time.

      http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11...th-world-title

      In his post-fight interview, Pacquiao said Cotto was one of the most challenging fighters he had ever faced in the ring.

      “He was a very tough opponent and he took a lot of tough shots,” he told TV host Mario Lopez.

      Asked if he was ever hurt during the fight, Pacquiao said: “In some rounds, he hurt me but I handled the fight and I handled his punches.”

      Pacquiao’s right ear was swollen after the fight, which came courtesy of his Puerto Rican challenger.


      Cotto can still hurt. It might savor more of the charitable comment I made earlier, but Manny looked worse after Cotto's fight and while not really praising his punching power, he did offer that Cotto was one of his toughest challenges. For what it's worth, I guess.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
        Did he actually say that? Well, Pacquiao was 17 pounds lighter than margarito at the time.

        http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11...th-world-title

        In his post-fight interview, Pacquiao said Cotto was one of the most challenging fighters he had ever faced in the ring.

        “He was a very tough opponent and he took a lot of tough shots,” he told TV host Mario Lopez.

        Asked if he was ever hurt during the fight, Pacquiao said: “In some rounds, he hurt me but I handled the fight and I handled his punches.”

        Pacquiao’s right ear was swollen after the fight, which came courtesy of his Puerto Rican challenger.


        Cotto can still hurt. It might savor more of the charitable comment I made earlier, but Manny looked worse after Cotto's fight and while not really praising his punching power, he did offer that Cotto was one of his toughest challenges. For what it's worth, I guess.
        Did you see both fights? At no point in time against Cotto was he as much trouble as he was against Marg in what was it? The 8th round?

        So Pac comments about Cotto is legit. But, Pac comment about Marg is charitable?

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          #24
          People are really missing the point. Who knows how much trouble he was in either fight. You can't tell.

          If you understand boxing and the mechanics of a punch you can grasp the fact that Cotto indeed likely has better pop. That doesn't mean margarito is any less effective or feather fisted. Margarito beats guys down in wars of attrition. He systematically breaks guys down with a high volume. He doesn't have the kind of concussive punching power we see on the left hook of Cotto. Miguel has real explosive snap. Margarito is almost a clubbing puncher at times.

          Just because you can argue that Margarito had Pac in more trouble... and that's highly questionable because we just don't know.... does not mean that margarito is the better puncher.
          Last edited by Heckler; 12-03-2011, 03:19 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Heckler
            People are really missing the point. Who knows how much trouble he was in either fight. You can't tell.

            If you understand boxing and the mechanics of a punch you can grasp the fact that Cotto indeed likely has better pop. That doesn't mean margarito is any less effective or feather fisted. Margarito beats guys down in wars of attrition. He systematically breaks guys down with a high volume. He doesn't have the kind of concussive punching power we see on the left hook of Cotto. Miguel has real explosive snap. Margarito is almost a clubbing puncher at times.
            Cotto is the same way...He systematically breaks you down as well.

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              #26
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              He was in more trouble against Margarito than he was at any point against Cotto. So yes his saying Marg hits harder than Cotto is credible.
              Small corection. Pac said cotto was tough and that he felt his power. He also said marg hits very hard. But pac has never said marg hits harder than cotto. It can just simply interpret that its implied.

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                #27
                Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                Pacquiao said marg hits very hard. Something he didnt say about cotto.
                Are you trolling? You might want to review post fight interviews, discussion, statements etc.

                In the age of the internet... you can't just make **** up.

                Pacquaio did indeed praise cottos power.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by spyvsspy
                  You are the mexican equivalent of prboxingcotto.
                  Not gonna deny, this ^^ made me spit up my beer.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Cotto is the same way...He systematically breaks you down as well.
                    Well he can indeed fight that kind of fight. Never said he couldn't. However that is Antonio's only mode of action.

                    Cotto has far more skill as a pure boxer. As a PUNCHER he is superior. He has a level of general sharpness... timing, distance, placement. The way in which he executes a punch is far more conducive to a concussive and damaging blow relative to the way antonio punches. He throws shorter, with greater velocity, snap, and leverage.

                    Margarito is undoubtedly heavyhanded. But he isn't the pure puncher Cotto is. That alone doesn't mean he is the inferior fighter. What he brings is huge intensity, volume, and mental fortitutde that allows him to set a pace that just breaks guys.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Heckler
                      People are really missing the point. Who knows how much trouble he was in either fight. You can't tell.

                      If you understand boxing and the mechanics of a punch you can grasp the fact that Cotto indeed likely has better pop. That doesn't mean margarito is any less effective or feather fisted. Margarito beats guys down in wars of attrition. He systematically breaks guys down with a high volume. He doesn't have the kind of concussive punching power we see on the left hook of Cotto. Miguel has real explosive snap. Margarito is almost a clubbing puncher at times.

                      Just because you can argue that Margarito had Pac in more trouble... and that's highly questionable because we just don't know.... does not mean that margarito is the better puncher.
                      science and physiology is irrelevant in this thread. The point ts was making is that mosley who faced both marg and cotto said marg doesnt hit hard therefore cotto hits harder and so it must be fact. But really its all a matter of perspective.

                      Pac whos also faced both guys said marg hits very hard but never paid cotto such high praise.

                      Ironically enough mosley also said pac hit him harder than he's ever been hit but marg said he didnt feel pac's power.

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