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  • The Big Dunn
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    #61
    Originally posted by Oxn
    I never said he was shot, hes definitely not shot.

    But in the same period timeframe from say the Cotto fight to now, Manny has gotten tagged more than Floyd.

    Manny has been in more fights than Floyd.

    Now with those 2 FACTS in mind, whos likely to come out fresher when the 2 meet up?

    I think we know the answer to that.

    Now Manny looked not so invicible against Nosely, and a questionable win against JMM. Some will just say he got exposed by better boxers, or some will say hes trying to get off the steriod. But i believe he just isnt as fresh as when he fought Cotto. Not to take anything away from JMM though.

    I will still give Floyd full credit if he beat Manny though. But I wouldnt say thats the best Manny he fought. Now if Manny wins, i wouldnt say its the ebst Floyd he fought either, but regardless Floyd is closer to his prime than Manny is closer to his.
    Your point about who is fresher is understood. WHile I don't totally agree your point is valid.Manny is younger and is closer to his prime, but I agree floyd has taken less damage. Floyd has taken less damage than VIctor Ortiz, who is 10 years younger then him.

    My point is manny's poor performances against Mosley and JMM are the same poor performances he had against JMM before and Morales and any fighter employing movement and boxing against Manny.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      Your point about who is fresher is understood. WHile I don't totally agree your point is valid.Manny is younger and is closer to his prime, but I agree floyd has taken less damage. Floyd has taken less damage than VIctor Ortiz, who is 10 years younger then him.

      My point is manny's poor performances against Mosley and JMM are the same poor performances he had against JMM before and Morales and any fighter employing movement and boxing against Manny.
      I dont disagree. But i still dont like that people think Cotto is a come forward fighter with no foot movement.

      Now Mannys last 2 fight were his worst fights at WW.

      Floyds fight against Ortiz IMO is his best performance ive seen from him at WW.

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      • Canelo Phresh
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        #63
        fights gonna happen if it goes past rd 4 manny loses and ******* excuses

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          #64
          Originally posted by Oxn
          I dont disagree. But i still dont like that people think Cotto is a come forward fighter with no foot movement.

          Now Mannys last 2 fight were his worst fights at WW.

          Floyds fight against Ortiz IMO is his best performance ive seen from him at WW.
          Watch the Hatton fight or SHane Mosley. He was much better in those fights. Judah as well. Watch these fights closely and you will see why many people say this fight will be a blowout for floyd.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Oxn
            I dont disagree. But i still dont like that people think Cotto is a come forward fighter with no foot movement.

            Now Mannys last 2 fight were his worst fights at WW.

            Floyds fight against Ortiz IMO is his best performance ive seen from him at WW.
            THey were also his best opponents at ww, other than cotto. I think the 145 had an affect on Miguel.

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            • Everywhere
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              #66
              Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
              fights gonna happen if it goes past rd 4 manny loses and ******* excuses
              Floyd knows every dirty trick in the book too...if anyone thought the "foot stomp trick" videos were hilariously annoying, the videos of Floyd "cheating" will be so hilariously filled with hate and rage

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                #67
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                Your point about who is fresher is understood. WHile I don't totally agree your point is valid.Manny is younger and is closer to his prime, but I agree floyd has taken less damage. Floyd has taken less damage than VIctor Ortiz, who is 10 years younger then him.

                My point is manny's poor performances against Mosley and JMM are the same poor performances he had against JMM before and Morales and any fighter employing movement and boxing against Manny.
                Originally posted by Oxn
                I dont disagree. But i still dont like that people think Cotto is a come forward fighter with no foot movement.

                Now Mannys last 2 fight were his worst fights at WW.

                Floyds fight against Ortiz IMO is his best performance ive seen from him at WW.
                Geez, you two are trying too hard to start a fight, lol. You both are obviously in agreement, so just hug it out, bitches

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Everywhere
                  Floyd knows every dirty trick in the book too...if anyone thought the "foot stomp trick" videos were hilariously annoying, the videos of Floyd "cheating" will be so hilariously filled with hate and rage
                  Imagine if he grabs manny's arm like he did SHane's? Pac diehards will stage a riot.

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                  • Oxn
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    Watch the Hatton fight or SHane Mosley. He was much better in those fights. Judah as well. Watch these fights closely and you will see why many people say this fight will be a blowout for floyd.
                    Ive watched all those fights multiply times. The Hatton fight ******, too much clinching. The Judah fight was good, he adjusted after 4 rounds and dominated. Ill say thats is 2nd best WW win. The Mosley fight was good too. But i think he couldve done better, but i dont blame him because IMo that was from a 3 year layoff. The JMM fight does not count in my book.

                    Now i find the Ortiz fight most impressive because i think he was the biggest test of the names mentioned. He showed he can absorb shots, and back up the bigger guy, and actually be exciting while performing so well.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Mayabang
                      Geez, you two are trying too hard to start a fight, lol. You both are obviously in agreement, so just hug it out, bitches
                      It is very strange to see a reasonable boxing debate on this board. I guess anything is possible.

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