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Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez Was EXPOSED Last Night........

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  • #31
    Another ignorant fool...please try to go play any type of sport at your sea level elevation town then try to do the same at high elevation with pollution...simple science and common sense. Molina aint **** if you cant knock out a washed out fighter then you aint ****
    Originally posted by intoccabile View Post
    He what?

    Molina beat Cintron in a SHUT OUT. that's 12 rounds Kerm had to do something and he got humiliated.

    Get real. Just because a fighter has power over someone else doesn't make their performances any better just because they got a stoppage.

    a 12 round SHUT OUT is far more impressive than an early knock out. Canelos conditioning looked piss poor, he'd have looked pretty ****ty down the stretch whilst Molina got stronger.

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    • #32
      I wouldn't say he got exposed. I mean, let's be real, we already knew he needs to step his competition game up a long time ago.

      Maybe he's one of those fighters that fight to the level of their competition. Who knows?

      But we can't figure it out if GB keeps matching him up with the Gomez's/Cintron's of boxing. Then we have the WBC giving Cintron a title shot, when Cintron looked like booty in his last 2 fights. Now that I think about it, since when do guys come off a decision win on ESPN and jump into a big title fight? I take that back Peterson did.

      Fact of the matter is Canelo needs to show the public why he's champion. If Mayweather fights/beats Canelo next, it's so easy for the public to dismiss Mayweather's victory because Canelo hasn't beaten "anyone". 154 is filled with competition.

      Put Canelo in the ring with a dangerous opponent. I want Canelo to be the underdog going into the fight. Then, and only then, will we really see what this kid is made of. Until then, in my book, you can't be exposed if you never accomplished anything.

      My definition of being exposed is Hopkins vs Pavlik. Hopkins gave Pavlik a style he's never seen. Jermaine Taylor tried it for a few rounds but gassed. Point is, Pavlik was exposed because Hopkins showed fighters how to beat Pavlik and he couldn't adjust. Martinez went on to do the same thing using that same lateral movement blueprint that Hopkins used. That's being exposed in my book.

      We've already seen Canelo hurt against Cotto and Cintron (momentarily). Heck, I even had Gomez winning the fight before the BS stoppage. All of these guys Canelo is fighting are nowhere near the top, but yet he's getting hurt and should've been losing on the scorecards to Gomez when the fight was stopped. It's hard to expose a guy like that when this is sort of the norm.

      Point is, put him in there with real threats (i.e Kirkland, Martinez, ect). If he wins on the big stage, then goes on to lose later down the line, he'll be exposed in my book. Until then, I've learned nothing new with this latest performance.
      Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 11-27-2011, 11:21 AM.

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      • #33
        I think he already was exposed by the midget Alfonso Gomez even more when Alvarez was being outboxed. You know damn well golden girl promotions is either going to protect the hell out of Alvarez or purposely get him a fight with floyd which would suck because he'd get a huge payday without really earning it against good fighters who are not midgets or shot.

        I find it a little ridiculous the refs in the Cintron and Gomez fight stopped the fights prematurely too, especially the Gomez fight where Gomez was beating Alvarez up and if he wasn't a midget would have probably hurt Alvarez several times.

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        • #34
          I wouldn't go as far as putting "exposed" in all caps. I will say that we learned a couple things of things about Mr. Alvarez. He leaves himself open when he goes in for the kill. A fighter with heart and punching power could hurt Alvarez. Might even put his ass night night. Mayweather is cleared to go after this kid on Cinco de Mayo. They can do some huge numbers and Canelo is coming off of a ko victory. He called Floyd out after scoring a ko. I would not be surprised if he takes this fight. Hatton knocked Castillo out and called Floyd out. So did marquez. That is what a fight has to do to enter the Mayweather sweepstakes. Canelo did what he needed to do to put his name in the hat.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by intoccabile View Post
            He what?

            Molina beat Cintron in a SHUT OUT. that's 12 rounds Kerm had to do something and he got humiliated.

            Get real. Just because a fighter has power over someone else doesn't make their performances any better just because they got a stoppage.

            a 12 round SHUT OUT is far more impressive than an early knock out. Canelos conditioning looked piss poor, he'd have looked pretty ****ty down the stretch whilst Molina got stronger.
            Hmmm Alvarez won every round too and I'm pretty sure he got hit less than Molina and was more accurate.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by TU PADRE View Post
              Another ignorant fool...please try to go play any type of sport at your sea level elevation town then try to do the same at high elevation with pollution...simple science and common sense. Molina aint **** if you cant knock out a washed out fighter then you aint ****
              So Molina isn't **** because he doesn't pack a punch? Look at your Logic. Outobxing someon decisively for 12 rounds straight is FAR more decisive and impressive a win than an early Knock out.


              What aren't you understanding?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                Hmmm Alvarez won every round too and I'm pretty sure he got hit less than Molina and was more accurate.
                The fight lasted 5 rounds. I'm sure he got hit less to.

                Molina was the busier fighter all night, outlanding Cintron, 251 of 558 punches, while Cintron landed 102 of 381.

                Alvarez landed 79 total punches to Cintron's 41, and had a huge edge in power shots, 62-19.

                I'm not sure how many punches were thrown however in the Cintron bout, but those are stats pulled from news articles.

                One fighter has power whilst the other soundly beat cintron for 12 rounds.

                You must all be *******s with skewed logic. Let me guess, Pacman knocking hatton out in 2 is more IMPRESSIVE than Winky dominating Tito for 12? Where is the logic here. Just becuase a figher pacs a punch doesn't make his victory more "impressive". I guess Limeaux is a world beater for all his first round victories then huh.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by left hook tua View Post
                  i wish.

                  About time martinez fights someone that matters.


                  The guy beats a nba shooting guard and an alcoholic pollack and dumb ****s like you start jerking him off.
                  lmao!!!!!!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by intoccabile View Post
                    The fight lasted 5 rounds. I'm sure he got hit less to.

                    Molina was the busier fighter all night, outlanding Cintron, 251 of 558 punches, while Cintron landed 102 of 381.

                    Alvarez landed 79 total punches to Cintron's 41, and had a huge edge in power shots, 62-19.

                    I'm not sure how many punches were thrown however in the Cintron bout, but those are stats pulled from news articles.

                    One fighter has power whilst the other soundly beat cintron for 12 rounds.

                    You must all be *******s with skewed logic. Let me guess, Pacman knocking hatton out in 2 is more IMPRESSIVE than Winky dominating Tito for 12? Where is the logic here. Just becuase a figher pacs a punch doesn't make his victory more "impressive". I guess Limeaux is a world beater for all his first round victories then huh.
                    I never said a KO is necessarily more impressive than a decision win, I said Canelo did better than Molina. What's better : winning every round and going the distance or winning every round and scoring a stoppage? In that case Canelo has the edge.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                      I never said a KO is necessarily more impressive than a decision win, I said Canelo did better than Molina. What's better : winning every round and going the distance or winning every round and scoring a stoppage? In that case Canelo has the edge.
                      No, not at all. You're looking at it wrong because Canelo is clearly the harder puncher. By that logic alone, Molina would never be able to outperform canelo because he'd never score a KO. That's just unfair. Compare it to someone else with a punch maybe, like Margaritos performances against Asesino.

                      Cintron, though knocked out and spent felt the urgency to throw big against Canelo and was fortunate enough to land some big punches in the process. Against Molina though, he was confused so much the entire way through that he literally sat and did nothing in rounds. I'd argue in front of Molina cintron felt lost, while against Canelo he just felt outmuscled. You can decide whats better based on preference.. but if a fighter makes me feel lost, all hats to him. Cintron couldn't figure him out and he had 12 rounds to do it. I think that's a better win overall. it shows a fighter can dominate for the longevity of a fight, not deviate from the plan, and not mess up. He was consistent. That says a lot.

                      EDIT -

                      Let me state that at this point I don't find a win against Cintron impressive at all, for the record. He looked better against Cintron than he did against Gomez and Gomez isn't supposed to be on Cintrons level. if anything that says a lot about where Cintron is today.

                      On top of that, anyone who saw the Cintron/Smith fight would know there was some seriously shady stuff going on in his favor. He was clearly outworked in that fight by the extremely loud Smith yet for some reason compubox had cintron has the guy who threw 1100 punches and Smith as teh guy who threw 800.

                      This was a head scratcher, as Cintron sat there and did nothing in spots and even for 2 entire rounds, while smith never stopped. But that's a different topic, all in all, i can't really give too much credit to anyone for the cintron win. Credit to Alvarez for getting him out of there though, only Margy was able to do it prior and it took him landing a lot more leather to do it, and props to Molina for showing everyone his class in clearly outclassing a former champion in Cintron.

                      But still, I'm waiting to see more from Canelo as we all are.

                      I think the question we should be asking when talking about Canelo and Molina together is how would Canelo do against Lara? That Draw with Molina was a gift, clearly, in an attempt to keep a highly touted prospect in the mix. Never the less, it said a lot about Molina and i'm sure we'd all like to see how Canelo/Lara would play out.
                      Last edited by intoccabile; 11-27-2011, 12:57 PM.

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