E. Steward vs P. Diaz on Cotto: Diferences

**TintaBoricua** · 11-25-2011, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Da Boxer

Outside experience levels and solely based on the videos we have all seen (I provide once of each as an example) what can you gentleman see as the main differences and how you all see Cotto when training with one or the other.

I can see a much more aggressive Cuban vs Steward, and a more motivated Cotto.

Discuss but keep it on topic no wraps, kneeling BS!

Pedro Dias and Cotto (please foward to 2:40 mark):

https://<object style="height: 390px...360"></object>

Emanuel Steward and Cotto (please foward to the 1:30 mark):

https://<object style="height: 390px...360"></object>

While I don't read much into these training sessions, from the looks of it Pedro (his new trainer) is pushing him hard and working on his footwork/stamina by exerting Miguel whereas Steward works more on his combinations. Like I said, I wouldn't look much into it. I remember when they were putting out footage before the Cotto/Mosley fight and people were saying that Cotto looked too slow and passive hitting the mitts, that Mosley's speed would be too much for Cotto because he looked slow and plodded forward. Fight night came and he looked good boxing Mosley.

On another note, while I was happy that he joined up with Steward after the Pacquiao fight, it's not like I thought that was THE best trainer out there for him. I'm sure Emanuel Steward is a world class trainer but he's also known as being a very expensive trainer and not a trainer who particularly pushes his fighters as much as he should. There's a chapter in Oscar de la Hoya's autobiography that he talks about all the trainers he's had throughout his career. In it, he talks about his time with Steward and how he didn't particularly like the way he conducted himself as a trainer. He complained that Steward was the type of trainer who would, if you wished to take a day off, tell you that it was okay and that you could come back whenever you felt were ready. In other words, he wasn't the type of trainer who was chewing your ass out and telling you to get ready. Oscar de la Hoya said he preferred trainers like Floyd Sr. who would point out every little detail and mistake that one made during training and push you hard.

But anyway, my point is that while some people might be looking as the break-up between Cotto and Steward as bad, I wouldn't call the decision for Cotto to go to Pedro as a bad one, either. It's not like the man is an amateur. It also helps that he speaks spanish so messages get across more clearly, especially if you're going back to the corner after a very critical and dangerous round. From the looks of it, the sessions with Cotto and the overall training that Pedro is incorporating for Cotto should play a huge role in his offense and his stamina, the latter being the most critical factor going into the fight. I firmly believe Cotto has got this in the bag.

Props to Margarito if he manages to pull off the upset in New York because it won't be an easy task...

**Da Boxer** · 11-25-2011, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by TintaBoricua

While I don't read much into these training sessions, from the looks of it Pedro (his new trainer) is pushing him hard and working on his footwork/stamina by exerting Miguel whereas Steward works more on his combinations. Like I said, I wouldn't look much into it. I remember when they were putting out footage before the Cotto/Mosley fight and people were saying that Cotto looked too slow and passive hitting the mitts, that Mosley's speed would be too much for Cotto because he looked slow and plodded forward. Fight night came and he looked good boxing Mosley.

On another note, while I was happy that he joined up with Steward after the Pacquiao fight, it's not like I thought that was THE best trainer out there for him. I'm sure Emanuel Steward is a world class trainer but he's also known as being a very expensive trainer and not a trainer who particularly pushes his fighters as much as he should. There's a chapter in Oscar de la Hoya's autobiography that he talks about all the trainers he's had throughout his career. In it, he talks about his time with Steward and how he didn't particularly like the way he conducted himself as a trainer. He complained that Steward was the type of trainer who would, if you wished to take a day off, tell you that it was okay and that you could come back whenever you felt were ready. In other words, he wasn't the type of trainer who was chewing your ass out and telling you to get ready. Oscar de la Hoya said he preferred trainers like Floyd Sr. who would point out every little detail and mistake that one made during training and push you hard.

But anyway, my point is that while some people might be looking as the break-up between Cotto and Steward as bad, I wouldn't call the decision for Cotto to go to Pedro as a bad one, either. It's not like the man is an amateur. It also helps that he speaks spanish so messages get across more clearly, especially if you're going back to the corner after a very critical and dangerous round. From the looks of it, the sessions with Cotto and the overall training that Pedro is incorporating for Cotto should play a huge role in his offense and his stamina, the latter being the most critical factor going into the fight. I firmly believe Cotto has got this in the bag.

Props to Margarito if he manages to pull off the upset in New York because it won't be an easy task...

Each have thier attributes. I personally belive that Steward is a bit too passive and I have not seen him instill that "killer" instict or extra push that a fighter may need at times where Diaz seems more agressive, pushing the evenvelope and challenging you with more when you may think that it's over.

**Da Boxer** · 11-25-2011, 06:20 PM

....Bump...

**Exciterx30** · 11-25-2011, 06:36 PM

I think that since it's just one video of each, and training camps go on for months, it's not enough to know what's it's like on a regular basis. However, from what I have read, this Cuban trainer was part of the Cuban amateur program and that program builds excellent fighters, not just technically but also builds a lot of character and a commitment to victory. To put it in a few words, they build winners. The mental aspect is sometimes overlooked but I think it might be determinant in this upcoming fight. Perhaps that's why we may see a Cotto that, although close to retirement, shows will and desire to give it a go again.

**Jcas** · 11-25-2011, 06:46 PM

From the videos of this new training camp it looks like Cotto is training very aggressive. With Steward he found his balance and Steward served as a mentor, I just feel that Steward did a great job on correcting his technique and his stance and I'm pretty sure carried what he learned from Steward on with him for this training camp. The Mayorga KO gave Cotto his swag back.
BUT....I feel that Cotto is better of with Pedro for this fight. Cotto is training aggressively and I expect him push Margarito back and stand his ground. With Steward I think that he would have Cotto boxing too much just collecting points, that style does not work against Margarito.

Researching Pedro Luis Diaz I found that he is very knowledgable on the sport and the man is a genius. He knows how to transform a fighter back to his old self with his training technique and he has Cotto working hard, it looks like he ain't giving him a break. I expect Cotto to be fully prepared for 12 rounds.

Cotto is throwing his left hook a little different, it's looking more powerful. I expect Cotto to use lateral movements and at the same time stand his ground and beat Margarito to the punch with his far superior boxing skills.

**Da Boxer** · 11-26-2011, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Jcas

From the videos of this new training camp it looks like Cotto is training very aggressive. With Steward he found his balance and Steward served as a mentor, I just feel that Steward did a great job on correcting his technique and his stance and I'm pretty sure carried what he learned from Steward on with him for this training camp. The Mayorga KO gave Cotto his swag back.
BUT....I feel that Cotto is better of with Pedro for this fight. Cotto is training aggressively and I expect him push Margarito back and stand his ground. With Steward I think that he would have Cotto boxing too much just collecting points, that style does not work against Margarito.

Researching Pedro Luis Diaz I found that he is very knowledgable on the sport and the man is a genius. He knows how to transform a fighter back to his old self with his training technique and he has Cotto working hard, it looks like he ain't giving him a break. I expect Cotto to be fully prepared for 12 rounds.

Cotto is throwing his left hook a little different, it's looking more powerful. I expect Cotto to use lateral movements and at the same time stand his ground and beat Margarito to the punch with his far superior boxing skills.

Great key points. Cant wait to see what is up today on 24/7!

**Evil Abed** · 11-26-2011, 01:39 PM

I think Steward emphasized the boxing aspect.

Diaz emphasizes the stamina and endurance aspect.

Strictly from what I've seen.

Don't know exactly what Diaz is telling him to do beyond pivoting and staying off that ropes.

Would love to see an interview.

E. Steward vs P. Diaz on Cotto: Diferences