Cotto Margarito 2 Will look Like Calderon Segura 2?

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  • BX88
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    #11
    calderon was able to use his legs and handspeed and keep the same pace for 12 rounds i think he beats segura in his prime. at 35-36 his legs are gone, his speed is decreased. but segura gets a lot of credit beating a boxer who never tasted defeat in a decade. plus can anybody respect calderon's power??? big difference margarito respects cotto's power.

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    • Owlzfan84
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      #12
      Not really a fair comparison. Calderon was MUCH smaller then Segura. I mean Calderon was pretty small for the lowest weight class in boxing much less the weight class above it. Throw in the fact that he has zero punching power and well its just not a fair comparison. Cotto has good size and good power. Cotto just needs to clinch a little bit and he'll should be fine.

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      • -Mustang-
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        #13
        I smh as a mexican fan for cotto and segura ... where the **** is the middle ground for us bro ???? even I don't know ... good luck man ...

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        • Johnwoo8686
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          #14
          Originally posted by Owlzfan84
          Not really a fair comparison. Calderon was MUCH smaller then Segura. I mean Calderon was pretty small for the lowest weight class in boxing much less the weight class above it. Throw in the fact that he has zero punching power and well its just not a fair comparison. Cotto has good size and good power. Cotto just needs to clinch a little bit and he'll should be fine.
          Cotto is also much smaller than Margarito. I think the height difference between Cotto and Margs is the same height difference between Calderon and Segura, 4 inches. Although Cotto has better power for his weight class, I don't think he hits hard enough to really give Margarito any trouble. We all saw what happened in the first fight and even Manny Pacquiao said Cotto didn't hit hard at all. I don't think Cotto will be stopped as quickly as Calderon was but I think Margs is going to put him in the ringer again and may just win again.

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          • Dirk Diggler UK
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            #15
            It could but I doubt it. Calderon just couldnt get Segura's respect with anything he threw at him. Cotto cant hurt Tony but he has more than enough power to keep him honest and can do damage to his face/eye

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            • Check_hooks
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              #16
              Originally posted by ThePhantom5
              Calderon was and is feather fisted.

              Cotto is not.

              Margarito in his last fight took the worst beating of his life and is coming off a 13 month layoff in which he had two surgeries on his eye.

              Segura was riding a 5 fight win streak.

              The scenarios are far apart.
              To Margarito he is. Marg took Cotto's best shot and laughed.

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              • Evil Abed
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                #17
                Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                Cotto is also much smaller than Margarito. I think the height difference between Cotto and Margs is the same height difference between Calderon and Segura, 4 inches. Although Cotto has better power for his weight class, I don't think he hits hard enough to really give Margarito any trouble. We all saw what happened in the first fight and even Manny Pacquiao said Cotto didn't hit hard at all. I don't think Cotto will be stopped as quickly as Calderon was but I think Margs is going to put him in the ringer again and may just win again.
                Margo has lost that extra gear that he had the first time they fought.

                Watch Margo-Pac and Margo-Cotto.

                Only pay attention to what Margo is doing.

                He's slower on his feet. The upper body movement is gone.

                I only expect a further decline coming into this fight off the beating he took and the 13 month layoff.

                Even Prime Margo when he moved up to 154 vs Santos looked pedestrian.

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                • JOM'S
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ThePhantom5
                  Calderon was and is feather fisted.

                  Cotto is not.

                  Margarito in his last fight took the worst beating of his life and is coming off a 13 month layoff in which he had two surgeries on his eye.

                  Segura was riding a 5 fight win streak.

                  The scenarios are far apart.
                  I agree with your post bro and the first line would have been enough ...

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                  • studentofthegam
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                    I was watching a video by Dwyer aka Gambler's Advisory and he talked about Cotto's chances against Margarito being remote due to the beating he took in the first fight much like Calderon's chances were null in his rematch with Segura. He also states that people should stop putting so much stock into the hand wrapping scandal because if you look at Margarito's next fight against Roberto Garcia it is very clear that he still has punching power.

                    His prediction was that the pressure coming from Margarito will still be too much for Cotto to take and that Margarito will win this fight again. I don't always agree with this guy but he breaks it down pretty well as to why he believes Margarito will get his hands raised in this fight.
                    Dwyer always souds like he kows what he's talking about. Many times doesnt. Im betting with Cotto so I'll take that million of yours if you want to run with what brotha Dwyer told you.

                    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                    Cotto is also much smaller than Margarito. I think the height difference between Cotto and Margs is the same height difference between Calderon and Segura, 4 inches. Although Cotto has better power for his weight class, I don't think he hits hard enough to really give Margarito any trouble. We all saw what happened in the first fight and even Manny Pacquiao said Cotto didn't hit hard at all. I don't think Cotto will be stopped as quickly as Calderon was but I think Margs is going to put him in the ringer again and may just win again.
                    Segura looked like a super featherweight compared to Calderon. Not close to the same. Cotto has KOed over 70% of his opponents. The problem with Margarito was that he focused on bailing more so than making Tony pay. If you ask me Cotto hits harder than Pac so I expect to see him sit down on his punches this time around. Cotto in 6.

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                    • BattleAxePurist
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                      #20
                      There is 1 major difernce and unknown and that is margacheatos eye and face there is a question mark as to how it'll hold up to any sustained irratation caused by whatever force trauma Cotto can inflict this fight could end up like Marquez-VazquezIV where simply his eye won't hold up that is a possible scenario.

                      All depends on Cottos conditioning for the fight if it goes into the later rounds

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