Lets face it, Pac's prime is over

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  • Froidjr.
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    #31
    Originally posted by Check_hooks
    Yea, its called ducking and dodging all the best fighters like the plague. According to floyds logic, JCC Jr is better than floyd will ever be since hes only 25 and already has more wins than floyd

    JCC Jr 44-0 > floyd 42-0 lmao
    Truth man!! Best post ever. Gayweather is the biggest fraud in boxing history robbing Jose Luis castillo of his win .Floyd is 42-1
    Last edited by Froidjr.; 11-26-2011, 06:32 AM.

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    • Froidjr.
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      #32
      Originally posted by Dempsey-Roll
      Although I Agree that Pacs recent fights aren't that explosive anymore, I disagree that he's past his prime.

      Back then, he's more hungry, more beastly. He tries to go for a KO ASAP. Now that he's moving up weights, he has become a more technical fighter and he has went soft on his opponents.
      Did you notice why he couldn't get a KO at WW? Because theyre at WW! PAC power hasn't increased. Sure he didn't lose it while movin to WW but it's not powerful enough to KO someone at WW.

      If you put him back at JMW or lower, I'm pretty sure we'll see KOs just like we used to.

      I don't understand why people are complaining why he struggled with JMM!
      PAC wasn't the same PAC in the past. This time, he tried to play a chest match with JMM and that why we didn't see JMM landing on his ass this time around.

      If PAC went back to being more aggressive, I'm sure he can put JmM on the canvas like we witness in the past.
      But we didn't.
      Agreed

      If anything Pac is alot better against his rival Marquez, technically in their first fight Marquez schooled Pacquiao If we disregard the knockdowns but since knockdowns are as much a part of boxing as a jab or a hook, Pac should've won If it wasn't for a judge's error that made It a draw.

      There's a pattern that Pac follows, He destroyed barrera and morales who are come forward fighters and then just when he's suppose to beat Marquez in their first fight, he got out boxed.

      He lost to morales and came back destroying him and outpointed Barrera yet again and looked like he should destroyed JMM for sure in their 2nd fight but instead of that happening, It's the same old tit for tat boxing chess match but only this time around they are almost evenly match and Pac needed a knockdown just to tip the decision in his favor

      He then went on to his usual pattern of destroying boxer-brawlers such as Hatton, OdLh, Mosley etc and for sure now He should destroy Marquez

      Only this time around the same thing happened but instead of Pac needing any knockdown to influence the score, He outpointed him with by landing more jabs and power punches, I'd say Pac is definitely rising and still is otherwise He would have needed another 5 knockdowns just for the fight to be a draw which didn't happened.

      Logic dictates that although Pac destroyed any boxer-brawler, JMM has his number at any weight class but Pac has gotten the better of him.

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      • eklok
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        #33
        an over the hill pac would still whoop's floyd's ass

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        • southcentralcar
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          #34
          Originally posted by Lineal Champ
          Pacquiao's physical prime is over. Last 4 fights have been a all decisions. Grueling battle with Cotto, 12 rounds and big shots from 174 lb Margarito, and 12 rounds of chasing old man Mosley and a grueling 12 round battle with Marquez which did not look like the past two fights with great exchanges every round.

          Pac's fire and prime was 2-3 years ago
          he cant take roids forever

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          • hbonnie21
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            #35
            Originally posted by Check_hooks
            Yea, its called ducking and dodging all the best fighters like the plague. According to floyds logic, JCC Jr is better than floyd will ever be since hes only 25 and already has more wins than floyd

            JCC Jr 44-0 > floyd 42-0 lmao
            dont be niave, theres a reason why is he is where is hes today and it isnt because of ducking. whats done in the dark will come to light as we have seen with mr pacquaio

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            • La_Vibora
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              #36
              I guess this is gonna be the excuse after Floyd beats him then?

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              • Convicted_Felon
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                #37
                Pacquiao was past his prime when he fought Marquez in 2008. He was able to get reinvigorated when he met the hulk shake guy. He's still working with the same guy but he looks ordinary out there. Coming up off of the drugs shows us what we have already seen. That's Pacquiao looking like he's past his prime. He was long since past his prime. PEDs will give him the edge to make it through without getting sluggish. We have seen him in there looking very sluggish.

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                • F l i c k e r
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by La_Vibora
                  I guess this is gonna be the excuse after Floyd beats him then?

                  Yup.

                  But these so called fans don't realize this guy has been fighting since 95 and this guy's prime was done when he fought Marquez the first time.


                  Steroids is a helluva drug.

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                  • mathed
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                    Yup.

                    But these so called fans don't realize this guy has been fighting since 95 and this guy's prime was done when he fought Marquez the first time.


                    Steroids is a helluva drug.
                    He should just use coke like Calzaghe did, worked for him......46-0

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