Pac vs Marquez Robbery?

[WitherGlove]

You're contradicting yourself here and I honestly am not sure what the main point of this thread is.

The point is in being unbiased what do real fans think. I like both guys but wouldn't call myself a fan. With that being said. I think because I saw 2 clear rounds won by Juan and no clear rounds won by pac I think he should have got the decision 7-5. I wanted to know what other people thought who were unbiased.

[Marchegiano]

LoL delude yourselves if you want, but that was a robbery. Sure is judges weren't supposed to be boxing experts I'd say it was close. Not that it took an expert to tell who was winning, but general acceptance of the lack of professionalism and star struckedness would allow me to accept such a bad call. It wasn't as close as people are starting to settle on. It was obvious who was winning the exchanges. Their past fights were closer in competitiveness. It was clear that Juan was being effective, and Pac was struggling to keep up. Pac won because of who he is not what he did that night. I don't really care for arguing with people who's minds are made already, but Manny fans ought to be a bt more upset with their hero's present decline into sloppiness. Putting on boring fights, and just squeaking by are not what made PacMan who he is now. I say he either hangs up the gloves or gets his **** together and do something big. I'd like to see a JMM 4. Someone needs to win by KO. I'd rather see one of these two KO the other more so then PacWeather.

[WitherGlove]

LoL delude yourselves if you want, but that was a robbery. Sure is judges weren't supposed to be boxing experts I'd say it was close. Not that it took an expert to tell who was winning, but general acceptance of the lack of professionalism and star struckedness would allow me to accept such a bad call. It wasn't as close as people are starting to settle on. It was obvious who was winning the exchanges. Their past fights were closer in competitiveness. It was clear that Juan was being effective, and Pac was struggling to keep up. Pac won because of who he is not what he did that night. I don't really care for arguing with people who's minds are made already, but Manny fans ought to be a bt more upset with their hero's present decline into sloppiness. Putting on boring fights, and just squeaking by are not what made PacMan who he is now. I say he either hangs up the gloves or gets his **** together and do something big. I'd like to see a JMM 4. Someone needs to win by KO. I'd rather see one of these two KO the other more so then PacWeather.

I can't lie when I first watched the fight I felt the same way. Only because people keep saying over and over Pac won I gave it a second chance, but even with me looking at the fight and trying to see what he did I still can't see him winning. I think it was 7-5 at the least for Juan could be more. But I agree Pac lost.

[tdawg83]

i felt pac won by a little bit. for me it was mainly the right hook of pac over the jab from marquez thet won him the fight but the 2 most dominate rounds were marquez rounds
by the way if u saw 10 rounds thet could go either way then how can u not see how pac won

[DiegoFuego]

If Marquez wasn't running in round 12, then I don't know what running means.

[WitherGlove]

i felt pac won by a little bit. for me it was mainly the right hook of pac over the jab from marquez thet won him the fight but the 2 most dominate rounds were marquez rounds
by the way if u saw 10 rounds thet could go either way then how can u not see how pac won

I guess that is contradictory I guess it's one of those things that in being fair I would split the rounds and give the decisive rounds to the guy who wins them clearly.

[Boxingtech718v2]

JMM won 8 rds to 4 rds
Without that HBO bias it's plain to see who won.

[Spray_resistant]

Upon rewatching it I had it for JMM 9-3 117-111 but with some close rounds it could have been a 7-5 115-113 loss for Pac at best......no way he won.

[WitherGlove]

JMM won 8 rds to 4 rds
Without that HBO bias it's plain to see who won.

good video

[WitherGlove]

Upon rewatching it I had it for JMM 9-3 117-111 but with some close rounds it could have been a 7-5 115-113 loss for Pac at best......no way he won.

That's exactly what I said and that's being modest