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  • Originally posted by Yogi007 View Post
    I don't know if he had plaster during the Cotto fight, but I know he caught with it the very next fight against Mosley. There is a chance that he got caught the first time he used it, but my guys tell me, that there is a very good chance that he may have gotten away with it several times before he got caught.
    With or without the crack the red spot is in the exact same fu***** spot as the piece taken out from the Mosley fight. Does anyone really believe this was a coincidence. Margarito is a cheater, clear as day.

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    • Originally posted by Real Floyd View Post
      With or without the crack the red spot is in the exact same fu***** spot as the piece taken out from the Mosley fight. Does anyone really believe this was a coincidence. Margarito is a cheater, clear as day.
      Based on this reply, I dont think you are capable enough of actually discussing this with any sort of logic

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      • Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
        Based on this reply, I dont think you are capable enough of actually discussing this with any sort of logic
        Actually i am and why would they reuse a hand wrap? I see that the area that looks like a crack has what appears to be a piece of black thread. However, if the chances of the red mark being in the exact same spot, as from the Mosley fight. Also the (marker) could be used to find where to place this substance. There is no logical reason he reused wraps other than the fact that he cheated.

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        • Originally posted by Come∂ian View Post
          Its black thread. You can see it cleanly on 24/7 when they show different angles of Margarito rising his hands in victory after the fight.
          of course its a black thread look at my avatar...... allow me to explain, what you see is black thread because a sharpie black marker was used here...

          Think before you fire off and just toss out this idea....

          That sharpie if you look really close at the avatar was used to find Margaritos knuckle..... Obviously there was some concern that the tape in between his fingers may have covered that area so what you see is the sharpie being used to find the knuckle.

          Which is going to dye the gauze back in that area, now if you know what surgical gauze looks like you know its frail, meaning those little strings or threads you see obviously came loose as a result of the sharpie being applied to the knuckle area hence the idea that its just a black thread.

          I disagree with that idea its a sharpie mark, in which the commissioner inspected the wrap to ensure no tape was over the knuckles which means one of Cottos people must have been in there because someone had the commission inspect that area of the wrap

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          • Originally posted by Real Floyd View Post
            Actually i am and why would they reuse a hand wrap? I see that the area that looks like a crack has what appears to be a piece of black thread. However, if the chances of the red mark being in the exact same spot, as from the Mosley fight. Also the (marker) could be used to find where to place this substance. There is no logical reason he reused wraps other than the fact that he cheated.
            One thing I agree on why re use the wrap? well California does not supply that gauze and tape well back then they didnt, so I am thinking that they didnt have enough gauze, and they used this old used pad from training or a previous bout.

            That doesnt mean he attempted to load his gloves, the rules do state you must use fresh clean gauze, so to me thats what he is guilty of.

            like I said it was sent to a forensics lab and they deal with Plaster Paris all the time as its used in crime scenes, yet all they come back with is sulfar and calcium which is not found in plaster paris....

            Whats found in plaster paris is a element known as Calcium Sulfate, quite a bit different

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            • Do people really believe that the first time margarito used plaster was against Mosley?

              Do people really believe that?

              Team Margarito can't even be honest about the night they were CAUGHT against Mosley. How can we expect them to be honest about the Cotto fight.

              Their credibility is gone. Last time I checked, Margarito didn't know he had blocks being put on his hands. But here's the kicker. Capatillo didn't know he was putting them on there. Can you believe that? Margarito's trainer is saying he didn't know what he was putting on margarito's hands. The biggest fight of Margarito's career and Capatillo become's an amateur trainer over night.

              But here's the BIGGEST kicker. If Capatillo didn't know what he was putting on Margarito's hands against Mosley, then how did he know what he was using against Cotto???

              I'll wait.

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              • I see what you mean i just cant see it any other way though. At 16:12 it is clear there is a black mark on the wraps but there is also a tear that is bigger. At 16:30 Cotto explains why this is the same wrap. The chances of a different wrap leaking dye into the same spot, unlikely.

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                • Cool story bro, but its obviously a piece of black thread. If it was drawn there to find Margarito's middle knuckle, why does it inconstantly go over the middle finger, over the tape, unto the index knuckle? And in the left photo you can see the black thread slightly protrude from the wrap.

                  [IMG]http://i955.***********.com/albums/ae34/mcbsouth/Wraps.jpg[/IMG]

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                  • Originally posted by dj emzz View Post
                    Lotion & Old Guaze.

                    That's the shortest I can make it for you.
                    This is Capetillos' story:



                    Trainer Javier Capetillo, who has been blamed for the hand wraps scandal that has haunted the career of Antonio Margarito since it happened prior to a loss to Shane Mosley in January 2009, broke his long silence during a recent interview with Doug Fischer, co-editor of ******.com.

                    Margarito has been boxing's biggest bad boy since the discovery was made by trainer Naazim Richardson of a plaster-like substance that was removed and confiscated prior to the fighter's ninth-round knockout loss to Mosley at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

                    Since having his license revoked by the California State Athletic Commission in February of 2009, Margarito has claimed no knowledge of the illegal hand wrappings in his gloves that led to his being exiled from fighting until August, when Texas licensed him to face Pacquiao.
                    More Coverage: Pacquiao vs. Margarito Pictures | Pacquiao vs. Margarito

                    Margarito has blamed Capetillo, claiming that the trainer acted on his own.

                    Capetillo told Fischer that Margarito is telling the truth.

                    "I made a mistake. I wasn't trying to hide anything. I just screwed up, and I did it in front of Mosley's trainer and the commissioners. I was just under a lot of pressure because I knew we shouldn't have taken the fight," said Capetillo, adding that dramatic weight loss drained Margarito, and led to his loading the gloves.

                    "I knew Tony was in trouble and I knew that I had put him in that position. I wrapped Tony's hands four times in front of Mosley's trainer and the commissioners and two representatives from Golden Boy Promotions after they found the gauze. I admitted then that I made a mistake."

                    Capetillo's admission comes on the eve of perhaps the biggest fight in the career of Margarito (38-6, 27 knockouts), who faces Manny Pacquiao (51-3-2, 38 KOs), the WBO welterweight (147 pounds) king, for the WBC's vacant junior middleweight (154 pounds) crown at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas on Saturday night.

                    Pacquiao has a 12-fight winning streak that includes nine knockouts as he pursues his eighth title in as many different weight classes.

                    Since the Mosley fight, however, members of the boxing community and Roach and Pacquiao, in particular, have speculated that Capetillo may have tampered with Margarito's gloves in other fights.

                    In two of them, Margarito vanquished rivals Kermit Cintron and Miguel Cotto, both of whom were beaten savagely and bloodily before being knocked out.

                    Capetillo dismissed those assertions.

                    "They think Tony cheated to beat Kermit Cintron? Give me a break. All you have to do is mad dog and rush Cintron, and he gets scared. Tony beat him by being Tony," said Capetillo. "He beat Miguel Cotto because he has the style to beat Cotto. He'll wear Cotto down and stop him every time they fight."

                    But against Mosley, the story is different, said Capetillo.

                    "[Margarito's] weight was a problem for that entire camp. He put on a lot of weight, not just water pounds but muscle, after he beat Cotto. He had to chop 20 pounds before he left Mexico to begin his camp for Mosley, and then he dropped another 30 in camp. He kept dropping weight and dropping weight until he had nothing," said Capetillo, adding that Margarito also had back problems that caused him to miss crucial training days.

                    "Then he would gain back whatever weight he lost the previous week. He was 16 pounds over [the welterweight limit] one week before the fight, and the closer we got to the weight, the sicker he got from dehydration," said Capetillo. "Four or five days out from the fight it was like he had the flu. He was shrinking before our eyes."

                    Capetillo's concern, he said, led to his sudden decision to go with the illegal wraps, a move that he said was not planned far ahead of time.

                    "I started panicking the week of the fight. I knew we were in deep s**t, and we couldn't tell anyone. It was too late to pull out of the fight. But I want to make it clear that I did not plan what happened," said Capetillo. "Maybe I was feeling the pressure of the fight and not paying attention to what I was doing when I reached into my bag and grabbed the training gauze, but I didn't do it on purpose."

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                    • Originally posted by Come∂ian View Post
                      Cool story bro, but its obviously a piece of black thread. If it was drawn there to find Margarito's middle knuckle, why does it inconstantly go over the middle finger, over the tape, unto the index knuckle? And in the left photo you can see the black thread slightly protrude from the wrap.

                      [IMG]http://i955.***********.com/albums/ae34/mcbsouth/Wraps.jpg[/IMG]
                      This is very easy to explain because when my kid fights it happens alot, The commissioner took the sharpie and followed the tape from one side to the other to ensure that the tape did not cover the knuckle and again I advise you to get some surgical gauze just like they use, the stuff is that frail in which it will break and leave threads that look just like this.

                      I am not making this up, tape is not allowed over the knuckles and I know some of you here will not look at this objectively based on the Margarito Mayweather feuds that have happend in the past.

                      But if your really trying to look at this for real, I am telling you based on what I know not on what I think. What I know is that the mark you see is clearly a sharpie mark and likely used to ensure tape was not over the knuckles

                      Which means someone had a concern there and pointed that out to the commission which means Cotto did have someone in the dressing room who else is going to point that out?

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