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Who Is Better P4p. The Dominant Vitali Klitschko or the Robber Manny Pacquiao?
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostHow do you just up and quit if you're winning that easily against a super middleweight? If you're winning that easy you don't need two hands. Or do you think Byrd would have knocked out the iron chinned beast from the Ukraine?
Those are the facts that all haters try to spin. Vitali's shoulder had to hurt bigtime for him to forfeit the WBO title & squander his shot for his 28th straight knockout & have his undefeated streak come to an end. Vitali is the ONLY one to know how painful the shoulder injury was... so for everyone to play doctor & state how he should've winged it for 3rds because Byrd was featherfisted is just engaging in a futile scenario..
The fact that Byrd couldn't hurt him made Vitali's decision a gimme... the thinking was there was NOTHING to prove... he was winning easily so those 3 rds extra could've only served to further escalate the injury & potentially bruise his ego as he'd be forced to practically run from a former middleweight..... the mentality of the situation is something no one ever takes into account when mentioning the fight.
Vitali didn't cower like MOST other fighters who threw in the towel before it's time.... his EGO got the best of him & it had alot to do with the fact he was winning handily & the opponent he was facing who was as featherfisted as it gets. Ponder this.. the next time you start wondering why a fighter of his stature would quit in such a stunning manner & it will make more sense to you.
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Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Postwould rather face a hasbeen hispanic fighter fighting his way to a draw 3 times over an undefeated fighter that would net him 6 times more money.
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostThat has been Hispanic fighter has more boxing brains and skill than all of Klitschkos opponents combined.
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If you can make a heavyweight version of Marquez that keeps all his skill and counterpunching ability he destroys Klitschko.
If you make a 135 pound version of Vitali that keeps all his...uh, jabbing and right crossing ability....he gets destroyed by Marquez.
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostIf you can make a heavyweight version of Marquez that keeps all his skill and counterpunching ability he destroys Klitschko.
If you make a 135 pound version of Vitali that keeps all his...uh, jabbing and right crossing ability....he gets destroyed by Marquez.
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I agree, Vitali has a case to be #1. He's atleast top 3-5. There seems to be an American and latino bias when it comes to P4P rankings stopping Vitali getting the recognition he deserves.
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Originally posted by Die Antwoord View PostPacquiao can't beat a blown up paperweight fighting at a weight where he literally has accomplished less than nothing. Vitali doesnt lose a round or get touched in fights and dominates everyone he faces. What criteria are people using to grade p4p? My guess is people are afraid to even speak Vitali's name, he is the Voldemort of boxing and thatswhy he isnt number 1 p4p, if you say his name too many times he's gonna get ya.
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Originally posted by thoughtsss View PostYou answered your own question. Pacquiao is the most overrated boxer in history. Beating Clottey, Margarito, and an old azz Mosley makes you 1 p4p? Lol @ that.
Pac was #1 in 2008 after having beaten Marquez, and having had recent KOs of Morales and a UD over Barrera.
After Mayweather's last fight before he retired, Pac solidified himself as #1 by winning titles in 5 divisions over 7 fights from 130-150 as a former flyweight, smashing guys no-one gave him a chance to beat before he moved up like De La Hoya, top 147lber Cotto and 140 king Hatton. When another flyweight does that, then you call it overrated.Last edited by Fighting Pride; 11-23-2011, 03:22 AM.
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