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  • *AKO PA HA!
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    Pacquiao remains pound for pound king

    PACQUIAO REMAINS POUND FOR POUND KING

    By Ronnie Nathanielsz
    PhilBoxing.com
    Fri, 18 Nov 2011



    WBO welterweight champion and “Fighter of the Decade” Manny Pacquiao remains Ring Magazine’s pound-for-pound king despite his controversial majority decision victory over Mexican legend Juan Manuel Marquez in Las Vegas last Saturday.


    Ring’s Michael Rosenthal reported that “The knee-jerk reaction was this: Pacquiao, No. 1 pound for pound, gave a sub-par performance (for him, at least) and should have to pay a price. He noted that No 2 Floyd Mayweather Jr ”was on Pacquiao’s heels going into Saturday, just waiting for a slip-up. And that’s what happened on Saturday. One could argue that Mayweather should supplant Pacquiao atop the rankings, particularly because more people than ever believe he’d beat Pacquiao head to head.”

    Ring Magazine said another option we (The Editorial Board) considered was to declare the No. 1 position vacant and demand that the principals fight one another to determine the pound-for-pound king, which would’ve been the easiest way to deal with this dilemma.

    In the end, though, Rosenthal said “ we decided to leave the pound-for-pound rankings as is for one simple reason: All but one member of the Ratings Advisory Panel who provided input and the entire RING Editorial Board believed it was the right thing to do.”

    The Magazine, considered “The Bible of Boxing” for years considered several points.

    1. Pacquiao wasn’t fighting a chump. Marquez is the No. 5 fighter in the world pound for pound. And Pacquiao beat him, at least officially.

    2. A great fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because another great fighter has his number. We didn’t think less of Muhammad Ali because he had trouble with Ken Norton three times. The same with Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler in their series.

    3. A fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because he has an off night, if that’s what it was on Saturday. Sergio Martinez didn’t look great against Darren Barker but no one clamored for him to be demoted.

    4.Pacquiao has accomplished more than Mayweather in recent years. The Filipino is 9-0 against big-name opponents since the beginning of 2008; Mayweather is 3-0 in that time.

    5.Mayweather isn’t exactly coming off a sterling performance. He looked good against Victor Ortiz for three-plus rounds but scored a knockout when Ortiz wasn’t looking.

    6.And you can’t say that Mayweather should supplant Pacquiao because he defeated Marquez more easily. That doesn’t take into account styles and strengths. Plus, Pacquiao beat Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya more easily than Mayweather did.

    In conclusion Rosenthal, one of the most respected boxing writers said “We also feel we should add something here: Pacquiao survives as THE RING’s No. 1 fighter by a hair. Should he stumble again or Mayweather turn in an outstanding performance, a new king probably would be crowned.

    And we still hold out hope that they’ll decide this once and for all by facing one another in the ring.

    Rosenthal added one more note stating that Marquez moved up in weight yet still fought on at least even terms with the No. 1 fighter in the world, which might merit a bump up in the pound-for-pound ratings under certain circumstances. However, we couldn't justify placing him above Pacquiao, Mayweather, Sergio Martinez and Nonito Donaire, who don't deserve to be demoted.
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    Then why is Manny Duckman running away from Floyd as fast as he can , he aint no P4P1 , he is a cherry picking ducker .

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    • keehlnate
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      yeah but ESPN and Sports Illustrated has Mayweather #1. The ring also said that Pacquiao only escaped by a very close vote to be their #1. It is just a matter of time before Mayweather regains his P4P king status.

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      • risan taog
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        #4
        true boxing fans know who the king is

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        • risan taog
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          #5
          even if floyd ko'd manny, *******s would say

          "well, manny still deserves to be p4p because floyd was bigger."

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          • #CaneloKhan
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            #6
            p4p#1 barely

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            • D.I.E.S.E.L
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              #7
              The number 1 p4p should never have an off night.

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              • UmissUpay
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                Originally posted by *AKO PA HA!
                PACQUIAO REMAINS POUND FOR POUND KING

                By Ronnie Nathanielsz
                PhilBoxing.com
                Fri, 18 Nov 2011



                WBO welterweight champion and “Fighter of the Decade” Manny Pacquiao remains Ring Magazine’s pound-for-pound king despite his controversial majority decision victory over Mexican legend Juan Manuel Marquez in Las Vegas last r a chump. Marquez is the No. 5 fighter in the world pound for pound. And Pacquiao beat him, at least officially.

                2. A great fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because another great fighter has his number. We didn’t think less of Muhammad Ali because he had trouble with Ken Norton three times. The same with Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler in their series.

                3. A fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because he has an off night, if that’s what it was on Saturday. Sergio Martinez didn’t look great against Darren Barker but no one clamored for him to be demoted.

                4.Pacquiao has accomplished more than Mayweather in recent years. The Filipino is 9-0 against big-name opponents since the beginning of 2008; Mayweather is 3-0 in that time.

                5.Mayweather isn’t exactly coming off a sterling performance. He looked good against Victor Ortiz for three-plus rounds but scored a knockout when Ortiz wasn’t looking.

                6.And you can’t say that Mayweather should supplant Pacquiao because he defeated Marquez more easily. That doesn’t take into account styles and strengths. Plus, Pacquiao beat Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya more easily than Mayweather did.

                In conclusion Rosenthal, one of the most respected boxing writers said “We also feel we should add something here: Pacquiao survives as THE RING’s No. 1 fighter by a hair. Should he stumble again or Mayweather turn in an outstanding performance, a new king probably would be crowned.

                And we still hold out hope that they’ll decide this once and for all by facing one another in the ring.

                Rosenthal added one more note stating that Marquez moved up in weight yet still fought on at least even terms with the No. 1 fighter in the world, which might merit a bump up in the pound-for-pound ratings under certain circumstances. However, we couldn't justify placing him above Pacquiao, Mayweather, Sergio Martinez and Nonito Donaire, who don't deserve to be demoted.
                now this is what im f@cking talkig about

                green k for posting

                long arse vacation + suckerpunching a Class C fighter is not even worth a penny

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                • Check_hooks
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                  #9
                  Great article. And not only does Pac remain P4P king but he actually seperated himself from everyone else by taking to school a first ballot HOFer. Can you say the same about Victor Ortiz or Darren Barker? Hell no you can't.

                  And Marquez is ranked as the best counter puncher in the sport and Pac out counter-punched him which isn't even his style. Punch stats don't lie. Pac is not only the best ambush fighter in the world but is also the best counter-puncher....wow

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                  • DiegoFuego
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                    #10
                    There's no doubt Mayweather is the best in the sport. Has been since 2005.

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