One thing that was made clear over the weekend

[SplitSecond]

there is a big flaw in Pac game that nobody has caught yet into JMM made it even more clear for all to see and its not Pac being not able to cut off the ring its something esle anybody with some boxing knowledge should be able to guess what it is

lol, pacquiao doesn't cut off the ring, simple as that, he doesn't even force fighters to the ropes, they go willingly, whether due to getting mentally imposed or physically too tired to move their feet

he likes to get his hits in from a distance, as far as he can despite his small reach

i dont see it as an issue, he usually catches you on the turn anyway

[clmags12]

Is that Floyd beats Manny, comfortably.

Triangle theories, etc I know you know..

For Floyd to win comfortably, he would have to jab more throwing more combos to keep Manny unset and distant.

Manny needs to stay busy, stay in the pocket. His angled punches will benefit him in the inside.

Whose faster (footwork and punchwise) will be determined in the first couple of rounds. If the pace of the fight is fast Manny wins, if slow Floyd. IMHO

[Sin City]

I don't think this is a triangle theory issue. It's a styles issue.

Floyd is a bigger, faster, stronger version of Marquez. Pacquiao was supposed to be such an "improved" fighter since Pac vs Marquez 2, but that clearly was proven wrong.

Imagine Floyd in there with Pac.

the only thing that Marquez and Floyd have in common is that they both like to counter punch.. their styles are nothing alike.

[thatnickuh]

It makes perfect sense to me....the stuff that others spout out about ..."based on this fight, I know this other guy would whoop so and so" is the unfounded presumptuous commentary that gets spilled out on a daily basis.

The presumptions that people are making are not unfounded though. The evidence that the presumptions are based on are the Pacquiao-Marquez fights. Nobody knows exactly what will happen in the ring with Mayweather and Pacquiao until they get there, but it's reasonable to assume that Pacquiao will have trouble with Mayweather based on how he has looked against Marquez. You want to dismiss those assumptions because you want to believe that Pacquiao has a good chance of beating Mayweather. You're allowing emotion to override common sense.

Just because some body doesn't look as impressive as people thought they should look, their opponent is compared to a third party and the results of this fantasy fight are vicariously derived from what they just saw.

This happens all of the time my man. If Mayweather would have struggled with Ortiz, and had trouble dealing with him being a southpaw who has power and applies pressure then people would naturally assume that he'd have even more trouble with Pacquiao. That would be a reasonable assumption no?

Just as other have said: just because two guys are good at counter punching, that in no way, means they fight similar or would have mirror image results against common opponents. Their entire posture and approach to fighting is completely different, so are their mentalities...that is not nonsense but obvious and is a statement of facts used to both illustrate my point and edify the basis for my prior post.

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Sorry, but it is nonsensical to try and dismiss the idea that Pacquiao would have trouble with Mayweather based on his 3 fights with Marquez. Stop thinking as a Pacquiao fan and try think objectively. You're speaking from a fanboy point of view, not that of a neutral boxing fan who's predicting how 2 fighters would match up in the ring.