Has there ever been this many excuses for a winner?

[The Big Dunn]

Don't forget about excuse #6. You didn't watch it in slow motion.

Yeah thats the best one of them all. Maybe they should get (RIP) DJ SCrew to remix the fight.

From now on you got sip sizzurp before a manny fight.

They should call MAnny v JMM 4 "Chopped and SCrewed"

[BoxingGenius27]

Yeah thats the best one of them all. Maybe they should get (RIP) DJ SCrew to remix the fight.

From now on you got sip sizzurp before a manny fight.

They should call MAnny v JMM 4 "Chopped and SCrewed"

Listen man. This goes to anyone/everyone. If you haven't watched the fight in slow motion or fast forward don't even talk to me.

This applies to to all past, present and future bouts. If you haven't seen it in slow mo, then I don't wanna know.

[Smokin'J]

Listen man. This goes to anyone/everyone. If you haven't watched the fight in slow motion or fast forward don't even talk to me.

This applies to to all past, present and future bouts. If you haven't seen it in slow mo, then I don't wanna know.

5 star post *****

[SyrianUser]

*******s and the Pacquiao Camp never run out of excuses

[Kagami Taiga]

i personally heard the menstrual cramps and bloating were the culprit. explains why manny went from thinking he lost to knowing he won. damn mood swings..

[goblin213]

Pacquiao was weight drained, guys, because of the catch weight.

[Best in Boxing]

LOS ANGELES

With his biggest payday in the balance — a bout of global interest with Floyd Mayweather — welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao’s personal and professional lives are in turmoil.

SURVIVAL MODE
Take a look at the best shots from Manny Pacquiao's controversial win over Juan Manuel Marquez.

The day after his disputed majority decision victory over Juan Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao wanted to surprise his wife, Jinkee, with a ceremony renewing their vows at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

But she apparently refused, according to several sources intimately familiar with the Pacquiao camp, citing his alleged infidelities. After a lengthy discussion at the hotel, they say, Jinkee refused to go through with the ceremony unless Pacquiao fired his agent, Michael Koncz.

“I have no knowledge of that,” said Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum.

“I don’t know who the f--- gave you that information,” said Koncz. “I’m not going to discuss Manny and Jinkee’s personal business in the media.”

That’s fair enough, if not exactly a denial. But even Pacquiao’s longtime trainer and confidante, Freddie Roach — who had predicted a knockout against Marquez — admitted that his fighter was not at his best on Saturday night.

“I think distractions outside the ring got to him,” Roach said in an interview Monday at his Wild Card gym in Hollywood.

Roach refused to specify those distractions, merely saying “they aren’t excuses.” But it’s clear there is serious disagreement within the Pacquiao camp on a variety of fronts, including the fighter's marriage, his training habits, and his next opponent. When asked whom he wants for Pacquiao's next opponent, Roach said emphatically: “Floyd Mayweather.”


When asked whom Pacquiao wanted next, he responded again: “Floyd Mayweather.”

People have been talking about Mayweather-Pacquiao almost as long as they fantasized about Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield. But now would seem the ideal time to actually make the match. What the world suddenly dismisses as a disputed Pacquiao victory actually represents the best-yet opportunity to make the fight of this still-young century. Only last week, Mayweather’s camp — uncharacteristically explicit in regard to its prospective Filipino foe — made known its preference for a May 5 date with Pacquiao.

Just as Holyfield’s lackluster showing against Bobby Czyz helped make the Tyson fight, Pacquaio’s performance against Marquez — whom Floyd handled so easily a couple of years ago — should fully incentivize the Mayweather camp.

Nevertheless, immediately after the fight, Arum was talking about making Pacquiao-Marquez IV instead of Pacquiao-Mayweather.

“Bob said, ‘We don’t need Mayweather. We can do a fourth fight,’ ” Roach recalled.

“That’s what he said in the ring.”

Arum is not to be blamed. It’s good business, as he promotes both Pacquiao and Marquez. Plus, it’s a good way to stick it to Mayweather and his promoter, Al Haymon, both of whom he loathes (the feeling, rest assured, is mutual).

Rather, the responsibility — on many levels — now belongs to Pacquiao.

At some point, Roach argued, “Bob has to give Manny what he wants. If Manny says, ‘I want Mayweather,’ Bob will have to give him Mayweather.”

In other words, it comes down to how hard Pacquiao pushes for the Mayweather fight.

“He needs to be pushy,” said Roach. “He’s got to step up and tell (Arum) who he wants to fight.”

“Freddie can say whatever he wants,” said Arum. “I’m going to sit with Manny and do whatever Manny wants to do.”

ROUND-BY-ROUND
Take a look at the round-by-round analysis of Manny Pacquiao's win over Juan Manuel Marquez.

In fact, Pacquiao needs to make his choices plain on a number of fronts: with his wife, his promoter and his trainer. For two fights now, Pacquiao has been less than diligent in listening to his strength and conditioning coach, Alex Ariza.

The last two training camps have seen Pacquiao show great enthusiasm for running the hills of Los Angeles' Griffith Park, but not for following Ariza’s advice. There are those in Pacquiao’s camp who blame the cramping and fatigue in his calves on his reluctance to abide by Ariza’s regimen.

“The biomechanics of running up and down hills is different than what’s required in boxing,” said Ariza. “Manny is a side-to-side fighter. His strength is lateral movement.”

Ariza also refused to address personal issues, but allowed that he met with the fighter Sunday to review a tape of the previous night’s bout with Marquez. It was the second consecutive fight that Pacquiao complained of stiffness in his legs. It was also, Ariza said, the second consecutive fight in which he shrugged off the coach’s track work and agility drills.

Ariza joined Team Pacquiao in 2008, after the second disputed victory over Marquez. The years since have seen Pacquiao move up in weight to become a global brand with consecutive victories over David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley and Marquez. Within the camp, there is a feeling that the last two (both decisions) have been distinctly less impressive than the previous six.

“It’s very simple,” Ariza told him Sunday. “My way is Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito. Your way is Mosley and Marquez.”

It’s the champ’s choice.

It always is.

And quite suddenly, Manny Pacquiao has a lot of them to make.


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[hypodermical]

Excuses I've heard so far:

1. Cramps

2. Marital problems

3. Problems inside camp

4. Over training

5. Marquez footstomps

What gives? What I really find hilarious are the Pac fans who are crying about the foot stomping yet say Pacquiao clearly won. Why keep reiterating the point about Marquez stomping Manny's feet with thread after thread and video after video when Manny "clearly" won?

I've heard more excuses for this fight than I did for the Morales loss. Remember? Manny not having the right gloves or the excuse he gave 5 years later about blood being drawn too close to the fight.

Pac won the close fight. People are making excuses because Pac did not perform the way he was expected by everyone to perform. I honestly thought that JMM just knows how to fight him, too bad he doesn't know how to decisively beat him, (and vice versa).

[Best in Boxing]

I think a lot of it has to do with Manny knowing exactly how uninformed and delusional his fans are about boxing. He doesn't want to let them down, and he knows they don't know crap about boxing...they have elevated him to such a superhuman status that anytime he doesn't flat out dominate it has become a disappointment to his Filipino fanbase.

saw this video earlier. start at 1:30 (the only english). I guess it's from the phillipines after the fight on sat. the filipinos thought pac lost.

guy even said something along the lines of: the mood seems like somebody died .....

[dalycityboss]

Yeah thats the best one of them all. Maybe they should get (RIP) DJ SCrew to remix the fight.

From now on you got sip sizzurp before a manny fight.

They should call MAnny v JMM 4 "Chopped and SCrewed"

holy **** this is the best post i ever seen! funniest **** ever hahahahahaha im literally rofl right now haha