A real BOXING fan knows it can go either way!

[purecyse]

Firstly, Pacquiao was definitely helped by the fact that saturday was the "pacquiao" fight and not just a fight between two talented boxers.
Everybody has an opinion about who won with many fans, and boxers, saying marquez while a rising tide is sticking with pacquiao.

That rising tide is depending on compubox numbers, namely that pacquiao out-threw AND out-landed marquez. This is a bad argument because...in the second fight, marquez out-landed pacquiao 172-157 with a better landing percentage and still lost by multiple rounds on a judge's scorecard.

Then we have de la hoya-mosley II, where de la hoya out-landed mosley 221-127 and still lost 113-115 on ALL scorecards.

Another fight that is very close to pacquiao-marquez III is the de la hoya-trinidad fight, where de la hoya out-landed trinidad 263-116 but gave away the championship rounds in the loss.

marvin hagler-sugar ray, where hagler played pacquiao's role of closing the distance while sugar ray backpedaled and counter-punched. sugar ray won that.

floyd-castillo, de la hoya-sturm, de la hoya-whitaker, this happens so often, we just don't know until the cards are read.

[fishman]

This is my point. This was a CLOSE fight. This was in no way shape or form a robbery such as the lara-williams or the alexander-Mattysse fights. Mexicans are not only the most biased towards their fighters but are the biggest crybabies. Nacho Beristein is a total doucher. He cost his fighter the fight then put it on the judges and called it the biggest robbery ever. HE'S A BOXING TRAINER, he should know better then to be guilty of typical Mexican ignorance and bias.

[handwraps]

i agree, either guy could of won that fight. Dont understand what the big stink is about. nacho should blame himself, had he told marquez its close win these rounds perhaps he would of got the win. instead he tells him youve got this be smart. even emanuel said nacho was wrong for telling marquez he was winning.

[purecyse]

in actuality, it seemed like marquez got in there and forgot his own words. he said himself that he can't put the fight in the hands of the judges and then fought the last couple of rounds like he had done enough.

he's had enough bad decisions in big fights that he should be thinking, unless your opponent is out-cold, there's always more work to be done.

i will say, between the second and third fights, he should have a win. from completely out-landing to, now, landing the harder punches, judges aren't taking into account that he is a counter-puncher so manny will always be the "ring general" in their fights.

that said, i don't think a fourth fight will do him any better. jmm cannot knock pacquiao out.

[Mr Randy Watson]

sorry to interupt the circle jerk u started here... but any "Real boxing fan" knows compubox holds as much water as the levee system in new orleans. Compubox is 2 guys pressing buttons when they think a punch lands. This counts glancing blows, and punches that dont inflict damage. Even if the punch stats were 100% you could win a round landing 20-1 and lose a round getting out landed 12-9. If you keep up that pace winning 6 rounds and losing 6, the punch stats will be lopsided but it would still be a draw. You judge boxing round by round. Proceed.

[purecyse]

sorry to interupt the circle jerk u started here... but any "Real boxing fan" knows compubox holds as much water as the levee system in new orleans. Compubox is 2 guys pressing buttons when they think a punch lands. This counts glancing blows, and punches that dont inflict damage. Even if the punch stats were 100% you could win a round landing 20-1 and lose a round getting out landed 12-9. If you keep up that pace winning 6 rounds and losing 6, the punch stats will be lopsided but it would still be a draw. You judge boxing round by round. Proceed.

true, but, if you're debating with people that use compubox numbers to argue whether this or that fighter won, compubox numbers should also be used to show that that argument doesn't hold water.

thanks for the input though.

[Sifo]

This is my point. This was a CLOSE fight. This was in no way shape or form a robbery such as the lara-williams or the alexander-Mattysse fights. Mexicans are not only the most biased towards their fighters but are the biggest crybabies. Nacho Beristein is a total doucher. He cost his fighter the fight then put it on the judges and called it the biggest robbery ever. HE'S A BOXING TRAINER, he should know better then to be guilty of typical Mexican ignorance and bias.

your wrong thats pac****s

[SyrianPoster]

A Real Boxing Fan = *******

[Pactards GTFO]

Marquez was robbed

this the gathering of the *******s or something?

[SyrianPoster]

SUPERJUDAH ZAB JUDAH 5x Champ!
Robbery!!!!

andreward Andre S.O.G. Ward
Marquez won this fight, period!!

jeanpascalchamp Jean Pascal
On my card Marquez WON!!!!

AmirKingKhan Amir Khan
Look mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds.

PaulMalignaggi Paulie Malignaggi
Dont ask me about the fight I will not give you my opinion except that I thought Marquez won #tk!

AndreBerto Andre Berto
Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank wasn't* gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though

RealJoeCalzaghe Joe Calzaghe
Just watched Marquez v Pacman and have to say thought Marquez was robbed! Thought he won the first 2 fights also!

ChrisArreola Chris Arreola
Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****.

DarrenBarker82 Darren barker
Just watched the fight Jmm won that in my eyes clearly!

andredirrell Andre Dirrell
I really think so! But its so hard 2 sayRT @serhandayi7: @andredirrell JMM had a great night.....he'll always be a style problem for Pac

jcchavezjr1 Julio Cesar Chavez
Gano marquez hoy. Fue un robo juan manuel gano claramente. esto esto es malo para el boxeo. Saludo a todos
[Translation: Marquez won today. It was a robbery, Juan Manuel won clearly. This is bad for boxing.]

SUGARRAYLEONARD Sugar Ray Leonard
The fight against Manny vs Marquez surprised everyone except Marquez! What a display of mental, spiritual and physical training of a boxer!

_FernandoVargas FerozFernandoVargas
MARQUEZ 8 - 4!!!!!! THEY BETTER NOT ROB MARQUEZ!!!!

THEREALBHOP BERNARD HOPKINS EX
@FloydMayweather blow thru @MannyPacquiao easy!!

TheArtistPerez Michael Angelo Perez
If I was #Marquez I'll be holding my head high , cause the whole world know he won. **** what the judges say.

1Babybull Juan Diaz
Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges

Post more if you find them.

ChinoMaidana Marcos Maidana
Pobre Márquez lo robaron!
[Translation: Poor Marquez, they robbed him!]

Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!"

OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is."

Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!"

Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#"

Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"

Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!"

Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."

Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"

Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard."

Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money."

Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the **** out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!"

Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport."

Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!"

ElKoChul Fernando Montiel M
Q pinche robooooooo. Gano markez y c la kitaron d new. Shialeeeee !!! [translation: What a ****ing robbery. Marquez won]

realdealgeale Daniel Geale
I thought the decision was close but in my opinion it should have gone the other way.

K9boxing Cornelius Bundrage
Just got back in town was at the PacMan fight. Marquez got Robbed. I will Destroy PacMan. I been knew it y'all just didn't know.

Champfasteddie Eddie Chambers
The Pacman vs Marquez fight could of went anyway... So I was expecting pacquiao to get the decision...


Sergio Martinez “@Nlewkow1: If @maravillabox fought @MannyPacquiao, he would kill him after last nights performance.”// YOU KNOW, WE WONT FIGHT!!! @maravillabox