How will Marquez vs Pacquiao 4 be any different than the first 3?

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  • jaded
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    #11
    Manny's leg speed wasn't there Sat...you could here comments from Roach in between rounds about it. The type of leg speed that he had in the Margarito/de LaHoya/Cotto/Hatton fights is what makes Manny great and I think it has diminished since his Congressman days. Congressmen don't make great boxers and there is a big difference in the type of life a hungry boxer lives and a politician. Maybe now he is realizing it and one career or the other needs to be put on hold. I think unless he takes a year off from politics and fights the rematch and then Mayweather 6 months later...he will continue to slide a bit in performance. I say take a year off from politics and then retire from boxing and run for president in 2013...if he loses his bid for president he can go back to boxing and then run for congress again after.

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    • sdcluser
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      #12
      Originally posted by ThePhantom5
      How the hell do you even hype it?

      You can't do another 24/7.

      What the tag-line? More Unfinished business?
      That's a funny sig. But that is the truth. Result would be similar.

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      • LA_2_Vegas
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        #13
        Originally posted by jaded
        Manny's leg speed wasn't there Sat...you could here comments from Roach in between rounds about it. The type of leg speed that he had in the Margarito/de LaHoya/Cotto/Hatton fights is what makes Manny great and I think it has diminished since his Congressman days. Congressmen don't make great boxers and there is a big difference in the type of life a hungry boxer lives and a politician. Maybe now he is realizing it and one career or the other needs to be put on hold. I think unless he takes a year off from politics and fights the rematch and then Mayweather 6 months later...he will continue to slide a bit in performance. I say take a year off from politics and then retire from boxing and run for president in 2013...if he loses his bid for president he can go back to boxing and then run for congress again after.
        Leg speed definitely wasn't there - he started to get it going a little starting in round 4 but it's a lot different than we are used to - you're right that is what makes him great. Whether or not it's JMM style or a slight drop off in physicality, this has got to be addressed.

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        • $tate of Mind
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          #14
          Originally posted by vacon04
          And still they won't give him the decision ... the only way for Marquez to get the win on his record is to KO Manny...
          Exactly, how many times can you get short changed against the same guy?

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          • DAN916
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            #15
            Marquez will go all out especially in the later rounds unlike this last time with his corner telling him he was winning the fight.

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            • sdcluser
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              #16
              Originally posted by DAN916
              Marquez will go all out especially in the later rounds unlike this last time with his corner telling him he was winning the fight.
              I think JMM should **** Bob and take on another fighter and leave Pac holding his own d1ck (with condom Manny) in the ring.

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              • GoogleMe
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                #17
                Everyone knows Marquez won. Let him fight Mayweather.

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                • Faerun
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                  #18
                  It wouldn't be any different. ATM it feels like Pacquiao, "the winner", is the one begging for a rematch as he's been bested by JMM over the course of three fights now.

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                  • TintaBoricua
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                    #19
                    Like me believing JMM would give a good fight before the third encounter, I feel in the minority yet again.

                    If Márquez takes the fourth fight with Pacquiao, I expect him to be outpointed but not because Pacquiao becomes better, but because Márquez would be taking the fight solely on the $10 million payday.

                    I listen to Márquez's post fight interviews from different journalists and you can tell he's just disgusted and disappointed with the sport after last Saturday. When you have a fight you've been constantly fighting for and you finally get it, fight your ass off for a third time, and get the short end of the stick YET AGAIN, it's not just discouraging, it's just humiliating. It's a slap in the face. The fact that Márquez left the ring immediately speaks volumes about his stance on the whole issue. He's disheartened by the whole thing.

                    I seriously believe he should retire because that was the last high point in his career and secondly, how do you get up to fight on after that happened?

                    I really feel bad for him. I sound like a broken record player posting more or less the same thing, but I think he should take a page from Marvin Hagler and leave the sport on that note. He has nothing to be ashamed of ending his career like that and NO ONE would blame him after last Saturday, because I have a hard time believing he'll be 100% committed to the sport after the way he was treated on Saturday.

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #20
                      I actually think Marquez holds the cards this time, the entire boxing community is on his side. The pressure would be on Pacman who had the fight in his backyard, at his weight, calling for the ko & got sonned. Manny would get more aggressive, then end up even more frusterated for wiffing & get outpointed even more thoroughly & somehow walk away with yet another weird win.

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