and so ends the Manny Pacquiao delusion..

[4Corners]

if Manny was my fighter I would keep him away from Floyd right now too, thats obvious that they are going to do that right now Manny needs to not only get on the winning track and bring back his former self he likely needs to be in a better mental state of mind right now in his mind I know he believes he lost that fight....

There were things I saw in that fight that lead me to think Mayweather knocks this kid out in six or seven rounds. Manny looked glove shy as he was getting countered... Floyd can counter his ass off.
Manny looked like his timing was way off, well that must be corrected before you think about fighting someone who isnt easy to hit.

and Manny starting to telegraph his shots alot more and rush in sloppy, People are going to say Floyd stops him with the right hand, I dont see that, Mannys new weapon that right hook will be the death of him, everytime he went to fire that shot he pokes that elbow out just before he throws it, basically announcing "Here comes a right hook"

Floyd just needs to time that once he sees that elbow poke out turn over a quick snappy left hook Manny wont see it comming.
if i were Floyd I would start looking for another option I dont think we will see the fight.

I think Manny and Floyd are both past prime-still really good. The speed was still there for Pacquiao, but his not quite as explosive as he use to be. I am not using the triangle theory with Mayweather and Pacquiao, even though Floyd did dominate a better version of JMM at the same weight over 2 years ago. But, givent he fact that Manny was arguably beat by a past prime counter puncher, who has a pretty good defense....I can't see him beating a past prime-still really good Floyd, who may be the best counter puncher and have the best defense the sport has seen.

It's all uselss though, because tonight we found out once and for all that Arum and Team Pac never wanted the Mayweather fight at all, and they still don't intend to make it. It's living proof that Manny is avoiding Floyd.

Pacquiao-Marquez IV is bulls**t and the Pac fans are jumping ship, or sounding delusional when they try to justify this blatant duck. It finally looked like Manny was going to agree to testing, as Arum had said "Manny will finally call Floyd's bluff", but now we get Arum and Pac pursuing another fight with JMM instead of Floyd.

I think Floyd is where Ali was in 71'-73' or where Leonard was in 87'-88'....past his prime, but still really good. A couple years left.

I think Manny is where Hagler was in 86'-87'....past his prime, but he's still really good. He has a couple years left in him too.

But, it should be clear as day who is avoiding who now.

[El Malo.]

Disrespect for Pacquiao has gone overboard too.

They brought it on them self's and its well deserved with all their absurd catch weights. How anyone justified the fight happening at a catch weight of 144 lbs. is fcking ******ed. This was a rematch and at most the catch weight should have been at 140 lbs. to make it even for both. They where expecting Marquez to be another human pinata for Pac to wack away at will so they could claim how Pac is an unstoppable monster. For the last couple of years Pac has only been fighting well known name fighters with very little chances of putting up a fight. And the ones that where capable of putting up a fight where handicap with their catch weights. On the other hand Marquez has been fighting the lesser known fighters who came to fight and leave it all in the ring with the exception of Casamayor. Marquez is the kind of fighter that well always fight back no matter how bad the situation might be. This man has never ducked any fighter and I hate to say it but he well never get the recognition that he so craves and justifiably deserves.