So Juan Diaz and Katsidis can trap Marquez into the ropes, and Manny can't?

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I get exactly what your saying Dominicano. Pacman does not cut off the ring. Mosley proved that, the only problem there was that he was too shot to do anything about it. Marquez circled all night & actually counterpunched his way to a victory to the masses.

Pacman doesn't cut the ring off effectively at all. he can come in at angles & leave at angles, but it's strictly based on exchanges. he doesn't force a fighter backwards while pressuring them into corners where his power is a factor.

Any fighter that has good latteral movement & can counter can beat pacman rather easily. They better keep him far from floyd who's bigger & even more accurate than Marquez, or else.............................................. ...